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Post by Artifact123 on Aug 9, 2013 15:37:10 GMT
I know there's a way. Post ideas here.
The best I can come up with is advertise the danball comment boards to hell.
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Post by Qwerty on Aug 10, 2013 2:23:37 GMT
That would only make them hate us. More. No, there's not really any way. Even if we did it'd be pointless, as it'd be basically an entirely new community.
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Post by Artifact123 on Aug 10, 2013 13:43:44 GMT
That would only make them hate us. More. No, there's not really any way. Even if we did it'd be pointless, as it'd be basically an entirely new community. A new community wouldn't be that bad IMO. Bringing back old members would be impossible. I think advertising might work, cause this forum is unactive but danball is still very popular. It might be worth a shot.
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Post by Qwerty on Aug 11, 2013 7:49:40 GMT
Feel free to advertise if you want, but it'll only make them hate us like they did last time we were advertising. Only reason it worked at first is the lack of other communities, but they have options now.
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Post by Artifact123 on Aug 11, 2013 11:25:54 GMT
Feel free to advertise if you want, but it'll only make them hate us like they did last time we were advertising. Only reason it worked at first is the lack of other communities, but they have options now. Time to spam! *crosses fingers
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Post by Alonso on Aug 18, 2013 9:48:18 GMT
what actually happened last time we advertised? Anyway why bother, some of the people on the danball chat on danball.com are spammers or trolls, not all, but some, and loads of people post anyway, so it would be gone in a matter of hours.
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Post by Qwerty on Aug 19, 2013 14:57:54 GMT
What happened? Simple. People hated us and nobody joined because of it. In fact, people that could have otherwise joined did not because amongst dan-ball communities we became known as the one constantly spamming the comment boards.
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Post by noodlesoup on Aug 22, 2013 6:38:56 GMT
People were irritated by the ads, but some did join. Now, we avert the problem of possibly irritating people at the cost of being unknown.
Now, a question: is it better to make no enemies on a comment board most of us rarely visit, and continue with this low activity level on a forum we frequent; or is it better to make some enemies on a rarely visited comment board and experience a rise in activity here?
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Post by Qwerty on Aug 22, 2013 8:01:20 GMT
I guess the latter is better. Still, it'll be harder this time, what with all of the other options they have now. Most of them are already in some other form of community.
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Post by BlueWinter on Sept 10, 2013 17:17:30 GMT
o/ everyone!
I've been away for a bit; mind elucidating on the reasons for the (very sad) death of these forums in the first place?
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Post by Qwerty on Sept 11, 2013 7:57:07 GMT
Forums were slowing (as they are wont to do quite often), Monokr0me decided that when a namechange didn't go his way he'd make a new forum and tried to convince everyone that a change in URL is the solution to all activity problems, half the people went over there, and suddenly neither had enough to support itself.
At least we lasted longer than his new empire. So that's something. Still a bit bitter about it.
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Post by mdog95 on Sept 27, 2013 8:49:23 GMT
Honestly, the only way to bring this forum back to life IMO is for Dan-Ball to come back to life. It used to be such a booming site with thousands of people playing the free entertaining games, but now, it's just on the verge of being dead because all of the 'pioneers' of the game have moved on with their lives, and more functional and famous games like Minecraft and LoL are taking up everybody else's time. There are very, very few people left, and chances of us getting anybody to come be a regular over here from there are very slim just because of the extremely low number of visitors to that site these days.
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Post by microfarad on Oct 8, 2013 6:06:42 GMT
I mean, Qwerty's being a super downer on this conversation, but he's basically right. I enjoyed the old gang and, now that it's gone, there's no use bringing this back. If you want a community, go find one. There's something out there that's right for you. I'm just glad to have the memories and to have learned how not to behave on the internet in a mostly harmless way at a young age.
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Post by D_M-01 on Oct 13, 2013 20:18:54 GMT
The problem isn't the community itself so much as it is the Dan-Ball website. In the beginning Dan-Ball had some unique and enjoyable physics simulations (and still does in my opinion), but over the years several new and more appealing communities centralized around different particle simulations and games have grown. The problem is that Dan-Ball chooses to remain static in a rapidly advancing genre of particle simulations. I even have what I feel is a much better and mobile version of Powder Game on my phone known as The Sandbox in the Google Play Store. The Sandbox has more visually appealing particle interactions and actually wants me to continue playing it weeks at a time thanks to the ingenious method of unlocking elements. As far as The SandBox goes, you earn a certain amount of "mana" points each time you complete a quest, and these points are used to unlock new elements. Getting enough point requires you to play the game daily. It is methods like these, methods that keep the player engaged continuously, that prove to be more effective than simply giving a random and oftentimes dull update each week.
The creators of the Dan-Ball website also fail to interact with the community in ways that other communities do. I like to think that part of this is the fact that the creators do not speak English. Interaction with the people interested in your product is essential to retaining an interest. If the creators of Dan-Ball took a more direct approach and made polls as to what players wanted, there would have definitely been a larger audience.
The ultimate question is whether the community wants to remain tied to this what now may be called ancient website or will it do something about its current situation and find a new niche. Personally I always wished I spent more time learning how to create my own particle simulations and made something to share with the community. Perhaps I may in the future if I choose to minor in computer science, but that will not be for some time. You can put the blame on several different things as to why this site has lost activity, but at the end of the day it was an inevitable result. The old community changed. It grew up, got tired of the lack of new and interesting things the first updates to Powder Game and Stick Ranger used to add to the pot, and eventually moved on. For all we know the Dan-Ball community might end up like its predecessors the FSG and WxSand communities. This is not solely the fault of the community but rather the creators of the simulations. Retaining interest is the fundamental virtue that any website must uphold.
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Post by Qwerty on Oct 14, 2013 2:15:41 GMT
Unlocking elements? So basically PixelCosm?
The falling sand genre has long since moved on from PG, like it did to FSG before it. Yeah, almost everyone's played PG at some point, but the genre has advanced beyond it. Certain Powder Toy users won't shut up about that bit. Someday it'll move on from them, too.
That said, that happened a long time ago here. When was the last time dan-ball was actually the main center of our conversation on the forums? Two years? Three? Sure there was intermittent talk, but it hasn't been the focus for a long, long time.
That said, most of us have each other on steam. The DBF lives on in a different form.
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Post by Clockwork on May 20, 2014 22:41:55 GMT
The community does, yes. The forum's original activity was detracted by the chat. The chat wasn't bad, but it was just a more a medium of communication which proved more popular, intuitive, and accessible. The community is the important part of DBF, not the medium through which we communicate. That said, a lot of DBF vets and newer members are friends on steam and play games together.
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Post by Qwerty on May 23, 2014 6:44:00 GMT
There's also a stillborn subreddit because for some reason we thought that maybe possibly that would be a good idea.
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Post by Clockwork on May 24, 2014 12:46:20 GMT
There's also a stillborn subreddit because for some reason we thought that maybe possibly that would be a good idea. I thought it was a good idea. If we actually got everyone to post their creations and interests, we'd have an interesting subreddit. As it is, it's just one thread about Dwarf Fortress, one hotlink to DBF Chat, and a spam thread. I tried. On the bright side, I started posting on reddit more, and I've found the other posters polite and witty. I haven't really done a forum in a couple of years.
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Post by priok on Sept 27, 2014 16:15:55 GMT
I think that we need to have a Dan-Ball Convention at the Los Angeles Convention Center on 1201 S Figueroa St, Los Angeles, CA 90015.
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Post by noodlesoup on Dec 23, 2014 23:14:42 GMT
nah
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Post by Qwerty on Feb 16, 2016 9:14:01 GMT
I think that we need to have a Dan-Ball Convention at the Los Angeles Convention Center on 1201 S Figueroa St, Los Angeles, CA 90015. Let it be known that Priok is officially a prophet.
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Post by ganondorfchampin on May 11, 2016 21:21:58 GMT
Yo, any of you guys still here? I don't have any of you on steam, I'd like to add you. Sorry, I'm super nostalgic right now.
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Post by priok on Jan 24, 2017 5:10:54 GMT
Yo Boys !
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Post by Qwerty on Jan 24, 2017 10:22:48 GMT
Hi, Priok.
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Post by diamondassassin23 on Jan 31, 2017 10:54:07 GMT
Its sad how dan ball just died. Its a miracle i found it in the first place. The first time i ever played a danball game was years ago, and i still somehow managed to refind the games. Mabye there is a little hope. I know i just enjoy being here. There are still some activity in the games, major examples being the powder games and stick ranger. I do not think advertisment is the best option. But if there is someway i managed to find this site after years of completely forgetting it, surely there is still some hope? NO do not even go bragging about it to your friends. Your closest ones mabye, but instead of stating what is already there, state what there *could be* i find it catches way more attention. BUT NO ADVERTISING.
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Post by Skribbblie on Feb 6, 2017 21:33:36 GMT
I mean... Dan-Ball is doing fine. This forum? Deader than a stabbified ghost's ghost P_P
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Post by noodlesoup on Mar 30, 2017 23:24:17 GMT
Hi Priok
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Post by Skribbblie on Jun 1, 2018 12:42:38 GMT
M e m e s
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Post by ~Memzak~ on Oct 21, 2018 19:10:32 GMT
I mean... Dan-Ball is doing fine. This forum? Deader than a stabbified ghost's ghost P_P Ayep... but it doesn't seem to just straight-up die for good. We all seem drawn to return here every couple months, checking in for some random reason? (at least that's what I've gleaned from my own experiences and reading through some of the 'recently posted in' threads) I'm not sure if we can bring it back to life, heck I'm not sure if I think we should even try... but perhaps we could neaten up what we already have for the old-returners of the past? (I wouldn't mind helping out if need be, the dead code/images everywhere is almost getting to me more than the dead forum...)
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Post by Qwerty on Jul 1, 2019 6:27:05 GMT
Definitely not "every couple months". Twice a year, I'd guess. Maybe less.
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