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Post by 4321x6 on Nov 4, 2010 7:19:25 GMT
If the Above make absolutely no sense to you, this page is for new names for when weapons take it up a notch. (P.S. There may be a few new weapon ideas too!) Example;
Glove-Knuckle
Sword-Sable
Bow-Arrow
???-Orb-Delta
Whip-Chain
Gunner and Priest are unexplainable.
What I think we should have;
Glove-Knuckle-Fist^
Sword-Sable-Machete
Bow-Arrow-Crossbow
???-Orb-Delta-Alpha
*Whip-Chain-Lasso#
Etc. Etc.
(* I have weapon ideas! Cat o' Nine Tails, Flail)
(^ Like Iron Fist, Flaming Fist, Icy Fist, Etc.)
(# Improve please, it's all I can come up with!)
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Post by DISTURBED on Nov 4, 2010 20:54:28 GMT
I love the idea of alpha, fist and machete, but with the crossbow, almost all ranger weapons go in an arc. a crossbow only shoots straight.
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Post by zelkova on Nov 4, 2010 22:15:03 GMT
Beta before Alpha?
Blade after sable? Light blade, demon blade, fire blade...Just an epic name.
Having bows with triple shot-like attacks would be nice as so far there only two bows that does that. Naming them crossbow would also work with that. Fire crossbow, poison crossbow (overpowered much?) but hey, look at the new boss...May be needed now.
Fist I agree with but there also claws.
Guns are kinda special...
Priests just use the term staff...Been working so far.
Lasso is a name that I hate...They are using whips, not ropes. Flail will work though.
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Post by ruisen2000 on Nov 5, 2010 22:19:33 GMT
Orb doesnt really follow any name patterns, it just follow the element pattern.
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Post by ganondorfchampin on Nov 5, 2010 23:00:31 GMT
There is no straight pattern with bows.
If the pattern continues, knuckle should upgrade into dagger, not fist. gloves<knuckles<daggers. Knuckles>Fists
Same problem with machete and lasso. How about blades and flails?
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Post by DISTURBED on Nov 6, 2010 0:11:15 GMT
I like the blade idea. the dagger idea seems like it has potential.
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Post by zelkova on Nov 6, 2010 0:38:12 GMT
I thought about daggers (I honestly thought that boxers should have been named rouges as they seem like speedy thieves) but sadly the name boxers only deal with fist. So claws would be more likey to e used then daggers. Even if short daggers are still a type of weapon with some range while claws only extend the fist just like knuckles.
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Post by ruisen2000 on Nov 6, 2010 5:32:33 GMT
how about daggerish claws? everyone gets what they want lol
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Post by ganondorfchampin on Nov 6, 2010 12:03:50 GMT
Claws are the best.
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Post by ruisen2000 on Nov 7, 2010 4:59:43 GMT
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Post by Rabidbadger on Nov 10, 2010 7:33:36 GMT
I have always liked the idea of a falchion, myself.
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Post by 4321x6 on Nov 15, 2010 2:24:19 GMT
Claws sound cool, but still, isn't that in a real little way like a gladiator?
Gladiator... stupid name, gladiators on the game do not wear armour, carry nets and fire arrows, unlike real gladiators. It should be renamed Swordsman.
Lasso, hey, I know it's crap, but it's the best I could come up with, I even searched Wikipedia!
Blade is good, but Daggers fall into the category of Swordsman too, since a dagger is NOT a glove-like object. You don't wear daggers on your fist.
Gunners might have a cannon edition?
Snipers are also dumb, Archers or Bowmen instead, and if Crossbow don't work, what about Longbow?
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Post by ruisen2000 on Nov 15, 2010 5:37:08 GMT
I dont think we will have new names for sniper... just continues the element pattern... so basicly just quad poison and fire, and... steel arrow?
lol they should have made it whip > lasso > chain... chain sounds a lot more powerful then lasso.. lol
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Post by Rabidbadger on Nov 15, 2010 7:56:22 GMT
I think the sniper should have weapons that bounce off things once after hitting them. We could have bounce arrows as our normal sniper weapons!
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Post by ~Memzak~ on Nov 15, 2010 10:48:53 GMT
Machete sounds good to me. I like it. (So does Alpha and fist BTW)
I mean it doesn't have to make logical sense. They are stickmen! XD
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Post by ganondorfchampin on Dec 10, 2010 10:27:48 GMT
I called it!
The new weapons groups are blades, claws, and "fureiru"s, which is supposed to be flails, only Japanese people can't spell.
Also, Gladiator literally means someone who fights with swords.
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Post by zelkova on Dec 10, 2010 13:06:40 GMT
Beta before Alpha? *****Meh*****Blade after sable? Light blade, demon blade, fire blade...Just an epic name. *****WIN!*****Having bows with triple shot-like attacks would be nice as so far there only two bows that does that. Naming them crossbow would also work with that. Fire crossbow, poison crossbow (overpowered much?) but hey, look at the new boss...May be needed now. *****WIN! Then again the others may not be the same but seeing how it have 90 range this could be the new setup.*****Fist I agree with but there also claws. *****SO MUCH WIN!*****Guns are kinda special... *****Like always*****Priests just use the term staff...Been working so far. *****Never changed*****Lasso is a name that I hate...They are using whips, not ropes. Flail will work though. *****OMGBBQLOL WIN!***** |
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Post by Chuanqi on Dec 22, 2010 22:13:44 GMT
What about katar, after claw? Looks like this:  Basically, a knife held in line with your forearm. You punch with it. Fits the punching theme. |
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Post by zaryan on Dec 22, 2010 22:40:03 GMT
Katars would certainly work for the boxer! That'd be a great idea for the 6th tier weapons after claws.
Also, I have to say I'd like to see crossbows. Not necessarily as a tier of weapons, but perhaps just a weapon that pops up here and there, like the shot-bows.
They could/should have stats like these:
Higher power than bows
Higher agility than bows (realistically, a crossbow can't be shot very fast, relative to a bow anyway)
higher power than bows
shoots in straight line
The one problem here of course, is that it would be a different-looking weapon when held by the sniper. It would fire differently (in terms of animation) too of course, and I don't even know if SR has the capability of giving one class multiple types of weapons in that way...
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Post by Chuanqi on Dec 23, 2010 12:34:35 GMT
Well, we can't have them at a realistic speed (1/6 of the speed of a regular bow, based on knowledge of longbow archers). Current agi of triple poison is 30-40, making cbow 180-240...yea, not gonna work. Unless the poison one had super long duration and damage (4-4?) and could poison multiple enemies. Of course, we could always have the repeating crossbow which is basically a semiautomatic version of a bow.  It would shot faster than a regular bow, but the individual attacks would be weaker. The poison would also be weaker, but maybe stack. Notice how I'm only talking about poison bows. |
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Post by zaryan on Dec 23, 2010 19:08:01 GMT
Yes, that attack rate is too realistic for SR. xD I was just saying the crossbow should simply have higher agility than a bow, but I'm not sure what would be a good amount.
I wouldn't want the crossbow to be only a poison weapon... do you think it would just simply not do enough damage otherwise?
I'm sure if they employed crossbows and repeating crossbows (which is an awesome idea while we're on the topic of crossbows), they would successfully provide plenty of variety into the new weapons.
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Post by Chuanqi on Dec 23, 2010 19:59:27 GMT
No I am not saying that crossbows should be poison only...it just seems to me that the poisoned bows are the only ones used regularly  |
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Post by Rabidbadger on Dec 24, 2010 10:21:12 GMT
There should be mainly physical crosssbows, in my opinion. Like bows, the amount of arrows fired increases from weapon to weapon. It would just have staggered fire, which would effectively cover the idea of repeater crossbows too.
Yay for crossbows.
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Post by Chuanqi on Dec 24, 2010 16:05:50 GMT
I believe that traditionally the repeating crossbow bolts were covered in very strong poison, as the firing power wasn't very strong.
So basically:
Regular crossbow: high damage, low firing rate, high range
Repeating crossbow: Low damage, low range, high rate of fire.
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Post by Rabidbadger on Jan 5, 2011 16:25:15 GMT
And/or burst fire for certain repeating crossbows?
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Post by 4321x6 on Jan 7, 2011 12:24:53 GMT
If the Above make absolutely no sense to you, this page is for new names for when weapons take it up a notch. (P.S. There may be a few new weapon ideas too!) Example; Glove-Knuckle Sword-Sable Bow-Arrow ???-Orb-Delta Whip-Chain Gunner and Priest are unexplainable. What I think we should have; Glove-Knuckle-Fist^ Sword-Sable-Machete Bow-Arrow-Crossbow ???-Orb-Delta-Alpha *Whip-Chain-Lasso# Etc. Etc. (* I have weapon ideas! Cat o' Nine Tails, Flail) (^ Like Iron Fist, Flaming Fist, Icy Fist, Etc.) (# Improve please, it's all I can come up with!) :D Flail is in! See, my ideas aren't all crap, like lasso. |
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Post by 4321x6 on Jan 7, 2011 12:38:14 GMT
*unlike lasso, sorry. (Look, I know that this is double-posting, but every time I try to modify and re-reply my post, it says it can't connect. Sorry.)
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Post by Chuanqi on Jan 7, 2011 20:19:46 GMT
And/or burst fire for certain repeating crossbows? You mean to replicate reloading a rack? Hmm, while realistic, that doesn't fit with the other weapons, after all, guns have cartridges/magazines, but they just fire at a constant rate. |
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Post by Rabidbadger on Jan 12, 2011 7:50:04 GMT
Yeah, but the three-round-burst has burst fire, as far as I am aware. I mean, some repeater crossbows actually had a clip of three or so bolts that they could fire rapidly, before a fast reload.
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Post by Chuanqi on Jan 12, 2011 20:13:22 GMT
Well I have never gotten a team with a gunner far enough to use it...actually I've never gotten a team with a gunner past GL1...
But if it's possible, then sounds good.
Also, it's worth pointing out that in real life trained soldiers could fire off a repeating crossbow's 15 bolt rack in 10 seconds. But an experienced archer could pull of 4-5 shots of a longbow a second, though 1 shot a second would be more realistic in a long battle. So repeating should have maybe 20-30 agi with 1 sec (50 agi) reload time?
Also, the bolts were usually covered in very strong poison.
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