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Post by zelkova on Dec 10, 2010 6:12:32 GMT
New weapons! Yay!
Thunder Claw 5 (look epic btw) at 9-18 agi 15-30 range 15 thunder at 1-45 mp 35
Blade 5 at 50-80 agi 20-30 range 30 no magical attack, physical
Poison Shot 5 (DO WANT!) at 4-6 agi 30-40 range 90 (wtf? should it be like 150...I guess poison is little overpowered for that) poison at 2-2 mp 35 last 1.0 s
Time Explosion 5 (look epic) at 20-40 agi 80-90 range 80 fire at 15-25 mp 0
Explosion Staff 5 at 10-15 agi 80-90 range 70 fire at 0-0 mp 0
3-Round Burst 5 at 24-36 agi 20-30 range 60 physical at 0-0 cost $10 per shot
Stone Fureiru 5 (odd name?) at 5-17 agi 15-20 range 40 physical at 32-52 MP 60 (NICE for a newer weapon)
I currently playing Maplestory but with the bad amount of lag from the towns I feel that I can spend some of my time to quickly hack a few groups together to see how they will play out in VS mode.
My groups will be:
Sniper, Mage, Priest, Whipper Sniper, Mage, Priest, Gladiator Sniper, Mage, Priest, Boxer
As Sniper still have poison and a priest will be needed to increase that. Mage is to quickly attack the other group and protect the sniper. The only thing that changed would be the melee classes. Then again who knows? Maybe it will be the boxer and three priests in VS mode again. =P Gotta see how good they are.
I will create a video once I have the groups together and I will update the betting thread when I feel like it later today (it 1:40 AM EST). If someone feel like being helpful then get the book info. I hate doing that part. =P
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Post by Elmach on Dec 10, 2010 6:40:22 GMT
I've always wondered, how do you get this information?
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Post by zelkova on Dec 10, 2010 6:42:16 GMT
Shop. =P Duh...It just the book info that I hate.
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Post by disabled on Dec 10, 2010 7:10:02 GMT
The drops can be found here: poison shot: Desert 7 - White Box Zombie blade v5: Desert 7 - Blue Diamond Bat time explosion v5: Desert 7 - Red Diamond Snakes explosion staff v5: Desert 7 - Red Diamond Snakes thunder claw v5: Desert 8 - Yellow Roundhead Spider 3-round burst v5: Desert 8 - Brown big Roundhead Spider stone fureiru v5: Desert 8 - Grey Box Trees
Time Explosion seems to have a nice damage per second value. It has 10 secondary projectiles at 15-25 and is a "fast" orb.
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Post by Rabidbadger on Dec 10, 2010 7:35:21 GMT
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Post by blaster on Dec 10, 2010 8:05:18 GMT
Poison shot fails for me. The go slow, as the fire arrows. I personally still prefers quad poison. It has potential with guide card, to make it epic, you need four combos: Emerald, Peridot, Guide card and pierce card. It's hard to choose.
I'm now trying timed explosion
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Post by ganondorfchampin on Dec 10, 2010 9:55:05 GMT
Fureiru is a misspelling of flail, or the romanji for the Japanese word for flail. Drop the us, and replace the rs with ls and pronounce ei as "A" and you get flail.
Yeah, they broke the pattern. Is it just me or is this pretty much exactly like we predicted what they would be called?
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Post by blaster on Dec 10, 2010 10:15:23 GMT
OK, Time explosion is pretty epic with a guide card. And for the second combo, I wonder which works better, a ruby or a garnet? I personally go with garnet.
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Post by ganondorfchampin on Dec 10, 2010 10:30:45 GMT
Ok, I checked the other thread and discovered that the new names are exactly what I wanted them to be called, if you count fureiru as flail.
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Post by zaryan on Dec 10, 2010 12:27:07 GMT
The Explosion Chain seems strictly better than Stone Flail in every way... Explosion Chain just does so much more damage...
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Post by zelkova on Dec 10, 2010 13:12:46 GMT
The Explosion Chain seems strictly better than Stone Flail in every way... Explosion Chain just does so much more damage... Well did you compare them completely or just compare the bullets and attack power? The flail mp requirement is VERY low in terms of being a whipper weapon. Of course it is stone, I pretty sure the other flails will have like 200 mp cost also.
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Post by zaryan on Dec 10, 2010 13:42:22 GMT
I didn't calculate the damage, i just did some boss runs, desert 2 boss to be precise. Explosion chain just seems to kill him a whole lot faster
Edit: figures i would test it on a physical-resistant boss... Haha my statement is Invalid until further notice
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Post by zelkova on Dec 10, 2010 13:55:06 GMT
lol well I hope you find a good enemy to do your test on. I am currently making three clean teams in terms of SP (hacking) before I start editing the stats.
Because VS mode only allow one upload per day I just going to upload what I see as being the best group. I will make a video with the cookies so others can compare with me.
I love how everything is working out for me today. I guess the weapons correctly, the update was around 1:00-2:00 and not the usual 3:00 and Maplestory is currently down so I have nothing else to do anyway today.
I don't know what I did to earn this karma but I need to do it more often.
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Post by zaryan on Dec 10, 2010 13:56:12 GMT
I am glad stone flail still has merot because it is just so fun spraying countless bullets berywhere!
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Post by zelkova on Dec 10, 2010 14:58:11 GMT
Speaking of which I only going to make the gladiator and boxer team. I notice that my setup have a tank and a whipper need a lot of points into dex to be useful. I see no point of having a whipper if he going to die within the first few secs.
I done with the gladiator, working on the boxer now.
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Post by zaryan on Dec 10, 2010 16:04:52 GMT
My team has a dex priest, dex sniper, 60 dex/ 40 mag, and a pure str boxer with onigiri and level 3 vamp card. They are very succesful. They take next to no damage and are constantly healing. Never underestimate the dex priest.
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Post by ruisen2000 on Dec 10, 2010 16:10:14 GMT
I like Fureiru more.. flail just sounds... weird.. although that caught most by surprise, because a lot of ppl were expecting lasso. Same as blade.. time bombs looks very cool... cant wait to try it out... Poison shot is a little fail.. 2 shots usually miss when using those (1 hits ground, 1 flies into sky) and poison damage is not very high..
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Post by zaryan on Dec 10, 2010 16:19:35 GMT
I think the flail would have been a great name for the fifth tier whipper weapons. It's not like they made up a weird word for a weapon; flails are real weapons. It's just a metal ball possibly with spikes on it chained to a short pole.
I haven't tried any of the other new weapons yet, but i am excited to do so... Except for the new bow. Bleh
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Post by zelkova on Dec 10, 2010 16:25:38 GMT
Ok, The new tanker should be the boxer with the thunder claw as it give more damage but if you want to freeze then go with the level 3 sword with a gladiator as the blade is useless in vs mode.
Time explosion pwns and basically became the new thunder spear.
Poison shot is useless in VS mode. If it was given normal range for a shot weapon then it may be good but with 90 range and only 1 (useful) arrow you will be better off with the level 4 poison arrow.
Priest attacks (like always) is not every noticeable. Not worth losing the str aura to your back units. Just use the level 4 long staff.
In short: Time Explosion and Thunder Claw are the only useful weapons in VS mode.
Blade seem useful at first for a tank weapon but only because of the added LP. You be better off increasing your dsp with a magical weapon.
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Post by zaryan on Dec 10, 2010 16:53:30 GMT
I use long staff 4 with dex... Defense priest is where it is at!
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Post by zelkova on Dec 10, 2010 21:21:57 GMT
Once I make my team perfect, I would like to battle you in VS mode.
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Post by ruisen2000 on Dec 10, 2010 23:51:02 GMT
I find the new weapons relatively weak. Mostly are the same powerful as the rank 4 weapons (No I did not forget the fact that rank 4 weapons have compo)
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Post by RubiksMaster123 on Dec 11, 2010 13:36:48 GMT
TIME EXPLOSION SUX
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Post by whoknows on Dec 11, 2010 14:20:53 GMT
Try adding a guide's card 3 and a quick card 4 to it...
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Post by ~Memzak~ on Dec 11, 2010 15:49:21 GMT
Whoa... Quick card 4 with vamp card 3 and sonic punch... WOW...
Anyone care to try it?
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Post by zaryan on Dec 11, 2010 18:12:32 GMT
According to my calculations, a sonic punch with quick card 4 would give you an agility of 3-6. That would be so awesome! However, I find onigiri's card to be a better choice in conjunction with vampire card 4 (I think you mean vamp card 4 anyway...). That way, the boxer heals himself and his team. I think 5-10 AGI is fast enough
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Post by DISTURBED on Dec 11, 2010 18:19:40 GMT
I think I will check these weapons out now, and also see what they do while hacked..
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Post by GamesExploit on Dec 12, 2010 0:23:44 GMT
zaryan, lowest agi is 5-10 =.= can't be lowered anymore. Havn't touch SR for a long time (2-3wks) gonna check out these wepz
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Post by GamesExploit on Dec 12, 2010 0:42:00 GMT
553-2191 -> blade 5 + yellow crystal 4 + beserk 4 4791 max -> blade 5 + yellow crystal 4 + crit. 4 Priest -> Full str + red stone 4 + black stone 4
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Post by zaryan on Dec 12, 2010 1:41:57 GMT
zaryan, lowest agi is 5-10 =.= can't be lowered anymore. Havn't touch SR for a long time (2-3wks) gonna check out these wepz With a quick's 4 card attached to it? That's what we're talking about... why wouldn't the AGI be reduced more? Anyways, the blade 5 has awesome damage. Makes me want to play my other team with the glad more.
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