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Post by Draxorion on Jul 24, 2011 5:07:08 GMT
I'm not exactly sure if this is the right place to post my idea, but I'd like to suggest an activity meter on our miniprofiles. It would start out at 0%, and eventually rise up to some average... This percentage would be based on how many times you come to the forums, or something of the sort?
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Post by Qwerty on Jul 24, 2011 6:22:34 GMT
I really see no way that could be programmed that doesn't involve a remote host and lots of php. I mean, if someone wants to program it for us, be our guests...
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on Jul 24, 2011 17:25:46 GMT
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Post by Draxorion on Jul 24, 2011 17:50:03 GMT
A thermometer? I would suggest that it be a bit more compact, if that were possible.
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Post by Qwerty on Jul 24, 2011 21:50:12 GMT
There's actually an addon for that. An activity thermometer. It's not very good, though. It only looks at last login date, it's only visible to the admin (THE admin), and it shows up on the full profile.
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Post by Minecraft Electric on Aug 3, 2011 18:27:19 GMT
Make a ''No threats rule'', with this example:
Punishment: 1 month ban automatically, perma-ban for repeat offenses
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Post by Anonymousperson5 on Aug 3, 2011 18:38:51 GMT
Maybe a bit too harsh of a punishment for an empty threat. I think that the punishment should increase further by rank (staff, Forum King, etc.) AND by number of offenses.
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on Aug 3, 2011 19:06:56 GMT
We just have an unwritten "punish the rebel scum for making empty or filled threats, hacking or death or otherwise" rule that gets the person warned heavily or banned, but certainly banned if he has other offenses. For instance, we just recently disabled the account of Codnchips's threat maker for a week, as well as another account that was very closely related to that account. After the week, we will ask the more behaved of the two accounts which one of the accounts to delete, defaulting to deleting the account that threatened Codnchips if we don't get an answer.
I guess it wouldn't hurt to standardize the punishment, but how would we go about doing so?
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Post by Qwerty on Aug 3, 2011 19:09:24 GMT
Threats have different levels, severity, etc. There's pretty much no way to standardize fairly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2011 10:28:05 GMT
I reckon we need a "Request an Option" thread for the PG and EE boards. Options being things like Scale, BG, Side-OFF. I mean, they don't really fit under Non-Elements or anything...
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Post by nmagain on Oct 9, 2011 11:31:13 GMT
why do we even need "request a/n X" threads, it's not like those ever get put into the game.
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Post by Qwerty on Oct 9, 2011 23:13:50 GMT
A few have, but mostly it's just for entertainment. It's neat to consider what could be, regardless of whether or not it would make a difference.
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Post by Likep on Oct 17, 2011 22:50:27 GMT
I have an idea. What if there was a "Last Edit" thing at the bottom of the home page, next to the "Last Post" thing? You don't know when someone edits something, and it might be really important.
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Post by Qwerty on Oct 17, 2011 23:09:24 GMT
That info isn't stored in proboards at all, to my knowledge. Some things unfortunately are impossible without a proboards update. All we can do without third-party hosting is take what is already on the page and display it in different ways.
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Post by izacque on Oct 18, 2011 18:54:25 GMT
This probably isn't possible without much work, but being able to view the list of users by karma would be cool.
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Post by Anonymousperson5 on Oct 19, 2011 3:00:05 GMT
Yes, we could have alternate ways of organizing the forum members. Maybe post count could be easier. Karma and join date would be hard, but I think it would be useful. Although it's just a thought on this concept, I really don't think the more complex things would be good for programming.
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Post by Rock on Oct 19, 2011 3:03:46 GMT
Well, I don't really see what the point in a karma list would be, but I'd love to see a join date list.
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Post by Anonymousperson5 on Oct 19, 2011 3:13:35 GMT
Likely the point of the karma list is to see who is hated or liked, and to see your position compared to the rest of the community. Join date would be pretty awesome, but hard to program because of the move. ._.
One more idea for a list organization is rank, like staff, mod, member, and down the rows.
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on Oct 19, 2011 4:19:08 GMT
Well, Rock, I don't like about an idea for a Join Date filter since we have suffered from Chaos Week and moved near-simultaneously to this new URL.
There's already a list that displays people based off their staff rank, although only if they are staff...
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Post by izacque on Oct 19, 2011 9:03:39 GMT
I know it can be done, but do any of us have the skills and motivation for it? Disabled seems skilled enough, if he actually wanted to do it.
I'd do it if I knew how on anything more than an abstract sense.
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Post by Qwerty on Oct 19, 2011 22:14:47 GMT
Could everyone just take a look at this, please? We can't make all the ideas you want no matter how good we are at programming.
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Post by izacque on Oct 20, 2011 0:02:18 GMT
Where does my suggestion fit in that list? I am assuming you posted it in response to my suggestion.
EDIT: wow, proboards TOS sucks.
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Post by Qwerty on Oct 20, 2011 0:50:59 GMT
Mostly bullet three. Bullet three is what prevents you from having a list of members by karma: There is simply no amount of javascript that will make stuff appear that isn't on the page. We've done some stuff with external hosting before, but nothing encompassing every user account on the forum.
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Post by D_M-01 on Oct 26, 2011 20:31:55 GMT
Looks like it is time to switch over to PhBB. Wouldn't be much of a loss considering nothing goes on here anyways.
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Post by Qwerty on Oct 26, 2011 20:57:12 GMT
Dangit Disgorged, you know we've tried that. Failed, every time. The only actual success was due to complete member agreement. Plenty goes on here, or at least as much as has always gone on here.
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Post by D_M-01 on Oct 26, 2011 22:58:45 GMT
Plenty goes on here, or at least as much as has always gone on here. That's funny. Hold on, let me find that one picture... Courtesy of izacque. I bet Chronologik is laughing in our face right now. Or probably not, considering there would be nobody to see him do so. If I were in his place, I would be too.
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on Oct 26, 2011 23:51:55 GMT
I'm sorry, but I have to agree with Temporarily9: the only reason we managed to move was primarily because we revolted against Lag the Five Post Dictator appointed by TheListo, and we had a 100% approval rating from the forum members, and we had a means of moving the content from the ODBF to this NDBF.
In order to move to any other host or any other forum software, we would have to learn how to interact with the host or use the forum software. If we use our own forum software, we would have to get a server that would run the software and pay to have the URL hosted. At that point, the forum would be costly to those who have to run it, and without 100% support from the users and their willingness to learn the new host or software, what few users we have would split away or attempt to stay on this site. That would kill the forum...
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Post by D_M-01 on Oct 27, 2011 20:02:05 GMT
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on Oct 27, 2011 21:55:37 GMT
First of all, let me point out that I did not indicate that we are growing: I merely indicated that we are not dying. Activity has been modeled very well by a line parallel to the time axis, with some exceptions in both directions. Enough of this load of "we're dying" or "we're dead" when there is obviously still a community that adheres to and participates in the forum. To ignore them and say that we're dead is to insult their efforts at activity. Nice job breaking it, hero.
Also, do you dare gnostically assert that Lag and TheListo are one and the same, let alone make fun of me for not having the same belief? Who's to say that they are one and the same without IP addresses to confirm, especially since TheListo didn't want to run the forum anymore whereas Lag decided to run the forum?
Now let's see if I can respond to the rest of the matter in a less biting manner.
The software designed for forum use that is itself free and less restrictive than ProBoards would still require that someone install that software on a server. A server costs money to run continuously for every waking second of every day of every week of every month of every year for at least...we've been "here" (ODBF and DBF combined) for well over three years now, so I'll say three years. The number of kiloWatt-hours per month I consume times the cost per kiloWatt-hour I consume times the number of months I consume power would determine how much it would cost to run a server. Don't forget, however, that rates rise over time, and that your server will demand more power as it does more work.
Alright, paying for a server is expensive, and who's to guarantee that I won't get a power outage in my neighborhood that will affect users from across the world who visit the forum whose site and data is stored on the server? Alright, maybe I can pay someone else to host my forum, but let's see if I can't find any such remote servers that will let me have unlimited pages hosted on the server(s) and let me install my free forum software for free. Oh, it seems that there aren't many that do that the last time I checked. If I want free hosting, I have a limit on how much information I can store and how much bandwidth I get. If I want unlimited hosting, I usually have to pay them the cost of running the servers. This is going to get expensive fast.
Since running my own server with my own software is expensive despite using free software, and since paying others for the ability to run a forum isn't any better, let's see if there are any forum hosting sites. Oh look, ProBoards does it for free!
We've addressed the money issues, so now let's address the learning curve. Who (aside from myself) is willing to learn how in the world to use and customize new forum software, because I'll need others alongside myself who can do so in the event something needs done and I'm not around to do it? Now, assuming money isn't a problem, assuming we do use forum software, assuming the administrators do learn how to use it, and assuming we do get the forum running, what guarantee is there that we will get more members? What guarantee is there that we won't have a net loss of members? What guarantee is there that the activity won't eventually reduce to current levels after a few years, months, or even weeks of first running the new forum? So a forum changed URL's from the layman's perspective - why does that matter? What makes that such a huge attracting factor for other users to become members that will stay with the forum?
"Oh, look - this forum that used to be located somewhere is now located elsewhere and has different forum software. All of a sudden, I want to become a member of that forum that's about a narrow interest in which I wasn't previously interested anyways! Let's sign up!"
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Post by D_M-01 on Oct 27, 2011 22:44:00 GMT
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