My apology, for staff and others
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Post by kuraikiba on Mar 29, 2011 20:28:04 GMT
I have an apology I have made, for staff to see, as well as those I feel need to see it.
"I have a message. It's really more an apology. Ok, look... I'm not going to bother beating around the bush. I'm just going to get right to it: I'm sorry. I realize I've been stupid, more of a moron, really. But, I am mature enough to realize my mistakes I've made, and I've made a few.
I'm not expecting you'll forgive me, or unban me. I just wanted to tell you, so that you'd realize I'm genuinely sorry.
I can't say I'm proud of my mistakes, more like a resentment of them. I've let everyone here down, but moreover, I let myself down. Truth be told, I wasn't always like this. Things happened, and it changed me over time. Far more so than I care to admit, far more than I could ever bring myself to believe. This is not a way to excuse my actions, but rather to explain how I have let myself down by becoming a very part of that which I've always fought. I know there won't ever be redemption here, or anywhere I go, but before you shut me out forever, just know these things.
I never wanted any of this to happen. I hate my screwed up self for it. But instead of passing blame and making pathetic weak excuses, it's time I just be real. I'm sorry, and I'd do anything that is even necessary to forgive me. If this apology is seen like I expect though, I assume redemption is not a value held. But for people like me, I can't see how it is deserved.
I am a hypocrite. Many have said that Christians truly aren't of Christ, but if I followed his example like any person should, I'd have never been like this. Be that as it may, choices are to be made. You can choose to keep things the way they are, or do so little as to forgive me.
I'm sorry for what I've done, truly, and will do anything to redeem myself.
Sincerely,
Kuraikiba"
I cannot be more sincere, and if people are to think anything less, I guess they are entitled to that believe. I cannot choose for anyone, but anyone may choose to forgive me.
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Post by Necrotising Fasciitis on Mar 29, 2011 20:32:01 GMT
It's cool, bro.
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Post by kuraikiba on Mar 29, 2011 20:33:23 GMT
Thanks, I guess.
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Post by ~Memzak~ on Mar 30, 2011 5:07:23 GMT
Another apology? Oh well... I guess I accept the apology, since you didn't really do anything to me...
What did you do to everyone anyways?
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Post by supermike2 on Mar 30, 2011 6:22:08 GMT
Yes, what is it you've done?
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on Mar 30, 2011 12:19:26 GMT
I cannot accept the apology. You have apologized several times before, and yet you are a problem. It's not enough to merely apologize, but you have to take steps to change. Without that, the apologies are empty and meaningless.
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Post by kuraikiba on Mar 30, 2011 21:10:25 GMT
It is impossible to change without the ability to take the steps. I cannot show change if I am not being given the chance to show my remorse. What this apology has that others don't is the fact I have REALIZED I was an idiot. Logically, following in sincerity the path of that very idiocy is illogical, is it not?
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Post by sparkpowder on Mar 30, 2011 21:31:12 GMT
I cannot accept the apology. Your meanness to me removes any chances of redemption to me.
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Post by vaconcovat on Mar 30, 2011 21:36:25 GMT
I cant say i know what you are talking about / what you've done...
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Post by kr0me on Mar 30, 2011 22:00:12 GMT
It is impossible to change without the ability to take the steps. I cannot show change if I am not being given the chance to show my remorse. What this apology has that others don't is the fact I have REALIZED I was an idiot. Logically, following in sincerity the path of that very idiocy is illogical, is it not? Yes, but from all of my experiences with you, you sadistically murder logic with your twisted sense of reasoning and stubborn idiocy, which is what causes these issues in the first place. |
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Post by Phantom Zero on Mar 30, 2011 22:29:49 GMT
No forgiveness from this-one. This-one is tired of all your untrue and un fufiling apologies. Not acepted...
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Post by priok on Mar 30, 2011 22:53:36 GMT
i accept your apology, because i think you are a human
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Post by GloveParty on Mar 30, 2011 23:42:23 GMT
Not accepted.
You've lied in arguments with me, and even accused me of racism, indirectly but very obviously. Anyway, you've falsely apologized to us too many times for me to believe it this time.
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Post by Qwerty on Mar 31, 2011 0:36:33 GMT
 (actual quote from a convo between MP and Kurai) How is this indirect? |
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Post by ganondorfchampin on Mar 31, 2011 0:43:43 GMT
I'm going to wait on this one. I will accept it if you prove that you change.
And sparkpowder, you are no one to talk when it comes to denying redemption.
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Post by GloveParty on Mar 31, 2011 0:45:14 GMT
Rather, indirect AND direct.
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Post by kuraikiba on Mar 31, 2011 1:31:13 GMT
priok: Thanks. It amazes me you are one of few who seems to realize that humans make mistakes, and can actually be sorry for them. @satar: I will not let you down. I swear it on my life, everything I was, will STAY a was. It will no longer be.
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on Mar 31, 2011 1:54:36 GMT
priok: Thanks. It amazes me you are one of few who seems to realize that humans make mistakes, and can actually be sorry for them. Oh, I have no doubt that humans make mistakes, I have no doubt that humans can actually be sorry for those mistakes, and I'm willing to apologize for the first times the mistakes are made, but you have been given several chances to learn from them and refrain from repeating them. You have failed to do this. You keep repeating your mistakes. You keep saying you're sorry, you keep saying you will change, but you don't seem to honestly be sorry for them, and you don't change. It's as if you don't have any regard for the truth value of the apologies, that you just have to say them and that will somehow do something, regardless of whether you are sorry or not. That is the essence of what we have defined in Philosophy Club as "bullshit." |
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Post by Phantom Zero on Mar 31, 2011 3:04:35 GMT
Have to Agree with GV on this one.And I know humans make mistakes. BTW.
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Post by kuraikiba on Mar 31, 2011 15:09:33 GMT
priok: Thanks. It amazes me you are one of few who seems to realize that humans make mistakes, and can actually be sorry for them. Oh, I have no doubt that humans make mistakes, I have no doubt that humans can actually be sorry for those mistakes, and I'm willing to apologize for the first times the mistakes are made, but you have been given several chances to learn from them and refrain from repeating them. You have failed to do this. You keep repeating your mistakes. You keep saying you're sorry, you keep saying you will change, but you don't seem to honestly be sorry for them, and you don't change. It's as if you don't have any regard for the truth value of the apologies, that you just have to say them and that will somehow do something, regardless of whether you are sorry or not. That is the essence of what we have defined in Philosophy Club as "bullshit." It is fairly illogical to assume you know inside and out the intentions of someone you know little to nothing about. First off, my entire online identity is faked. No one in their right mind would name their child Steve Enzon Christerform. Second off, I don't live in Minnesota. I also fake my zip code and phone number by randomizing. That's not even the full extent of how little about me you exactly know. First off, I'm slightly vampiric. Yes, vampirism is real. I have bloodlust and sensitivity to light. Second, half of you don't know the full extremity of my mental damages. I'm not willing to divulge exactly how much a verifiable nutcase I have become over the years. Third, believe it or not, I'm not racist. I just don't seem to be overly fanatical about a few groups (The Muslim one and Mormon one was actually jokes. I'm not really stupid enough to believe blind lies called stereotypes). In fact, my advocacy for blacks is often misinterpreted as hating whites. How people drew that conclusion, I don't know. But let me state one simple fact to sum things up: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I speak a message of the heart today, so that everyone may know who I truly am. And what I truly believe. I am here in no petty mean, no slighting way. I am here to spread a message, one I hope every one of God's children on this Earth shall know. I come here to stand for what is true and right, and speak in peace and love. I am here to preach to all creation the truth, one of love, kindness, trust, peace, harmony, and beauty. I am here to say what is without a doubt the truth. My people are beautiful, always have been, and always will be. When I say my people, I say Black and White, Jew and Christian, Asian and Latino... I say 'my people' as ALL God's children as a whole. I am not a white, I am a human. We are all humans. But we don't treat each other like that. I've seen fairly messed up things, but nothing makes less sense than the petty catagorization of humans into castes, creeds, and races. We are all the same. We have the same bodies, and it doesn't matter what they look like. When I say my people are beautiful, let this forum and the whole world know... I think all my people, all God's children, of Africa, of Americas, of Eurasia, of Zealandia, of Oceania, all God's children all over this beautiful Earth, I think... No, I know... That my people are beautiful, and that's just the way it is, the way it has been, and the way it will be, and nothing can change that about my people. We are here to love, and testify our beauty as humans. There is no Black. No White. There is no Jew, Gentile, Hispanic, Aryan, Oriental, Mormon, Arab, or European. There is only human, there is only us. We are a beautiful thing, and no one can say otherwise. We always have been, and always will be, beautiful. We are beautiful. There is no them, those, or their. There is us, ours, and ours alone. We are beautiful. We are beautiful. We all are. All God's children are beatiful, we are all beautiful. We are not of different ways or cultures. We are us. We are a culture, and we are beautiful. And we are beautiful. We may not always see it, but all my people, all God's children... We are beautiful. Nothing can tear us apart, for we are of each other, and we are beautiful. There is no ugliness, none but that we make in our hearts. We are all beautiful. We are all God's children, and we are so beautiful. Because that is the way God made us. He made my people beautiful. He made their skin beautiful, and their hearts beautiful, and their souls beautiful. Our ugliness comes from our hearts, the hatred that we make, the chasms we make. But we are so blind to not see how we are all God's children, of beauty of skin and heart and soul. We are beautiful, but we make ourselves shallow for portraying less than we are of others. But we all are beautiful. We are a race, as humans. All of God's children from Africa to Oceania... We will always be beautiful, no matter what, because God made us beautiful. No one can say elsewise without showing the ugliness of their heart, because God made each of us beautiful. Our skin, our hair, our bodies, our hearts, our souls... God made them all beautiful. We are not Blacks and Whites. We are Humans. My people are beautiful. WE are beautiful, like the stars in the sky... We are beautiful. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I tell you this so you may see we are not different. We are all humans. And we are beautiful for it. |
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on Mar 31, 2011 15:55:18 GMT
The only assumptions I made were based off the observations you have provided with your actions. You were given multiple chances for change. You failed to change. How am I to believe that another chance at change will result in one if all past chances resulted in failures? Yes, just because it happened in the past doesn't mean it will happen in the future, but it does mean that the probability of change is significantly low.
Everything else you mentioned is a non sequitor and/or in direct contradiction with what you said in the past...
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Post by Necrotising Fasciitis on Mar 31, 2011 18:44:39 GMT
>bloodlust
you just suddenly got awesome lol
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Post by kuraikiba on Mar 31, 2011 19:00:31 GMT
The only assumptions I made were based off the observations you have provided with your actions. You were given multiple chances for change. You failed to change. How am I to believe that another chance at change will result in one if all past chances resulted in failures? Yes, just because it happened in the past doesn't mean it will happen in the future, but it does mean that the probability of change is significantly low. Everything else you mentioned is a non sequitor and/or in direct contradiction with what you said in the past... I'm rather sure that if you live your life solely based on whether a concept is fallacious or not, you aren't going to realize there is actually more to life than flaws. To see flaws and dismiss merit is far more illogical than recognizing the merit despite it's flaws. I do now think you were in fact lying about your autism. Doesn't surprise me, but I see the sense in it. The autistic do not solely base decisions based on flaws, but on flaws and merit. Id est, autism indicates recognition of both the flaws and merits of a concept. If you do indeed stand by the post you made, you sir, are not autistic. |
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Post by Elmach on Mar 31, 2011 19:49:32 GMT
Oh, I have no doubt that humans make mistakes, I have no doubt that humans can actually be sorry for those mistakes, and I'm willing to apologize for the first times the mistakes are made, but you have been given several chances to learn from them and refrain from repeating them. You have failed to do this. You keep repeating your mistakes. You keep saying you're sorry, you keep saying you will change, but you don't seem to honestly be sorry for them, and you don't change. It's as if you don't have any regard for the truth value of the apologies, that you just have to say them and that will somehow do something, regardless of whether you are sorry or not. That is the essence of what we have defined in Philosophy Club as "bullshit." It is fairly illogical to assume you know inside and out the intentions of someone you know little to nothing about. First off, my entire online identity is faked. No one in their right mind would name their child Steve Enzon Christerform. Second off, I don't live in Minnesota. I also fake my zip code and phone number by randomizing. That's not even the full extent of how little about me you exactly know. First off, I'm slightly vampiric. Yes, vampirism is real. I have bloodlust and sensitivity to light. Second, half of you don't know the full extremity of my mental damages. I'm not willing to divulge exactly how much a verifiable nutcase I have become over the years. Third, believe it or not, I'm not racist. I just don't seem to be overly fanatical about a few groups (The Muslim one and Mormon one was actually jokes. I'm not really stupid enough to believe blind lies called stereotypes). In fact, my advocacy for blacks is often misinterpreted as hating whites. How people drew that conclusion, I don't know. But let me state one simple fact to sum things up: [snip] ... I... think that you just lowered my respect value for you and my chances of accepting your apology. I'm still unsure on that, though. And there is plenty of evidence where you have shown where you "hate whites". Such as that time where you said something like "All whites are racist/Nazis/KKK members" or something like that. The only assumptions I made were based off the observations you have provided with your actions. You were given multiple chances for change. You failed to change. How am I to believe that another chance at change will result in one if all past chances resulted in failures? Yes, just because it happened in the past doesn't mean it will happen in the future, but it does mean that the probability of change is significantly low. Everything else you mentioned is a non sequitor and/or in direct contradiction with what you said in the past... I'm rather sure that if you live your life solely based on whether a concept is fallacious or not, you aren't going to realize there is actually more to life than flaws. To see flaws and dismiss merit is far more illogical than recognizing the merit despite it's flaws. I do now think you were in fact lying about your autism. Doesn't surprise me, but I see the sense in it. The autistic do not solely base decisions based on flaws, but on flaws and merit. Id est, autism indicates recognition of both the flaws and merits of a concept. If you do indeed stand by the post you made, you sir, are not autistic. ... OK, this is ridiculous. I don't think I will be able to accept your apology. Yet. It is not accepting apologies that leads to forgiveness, but rather how the person changes after the apology. Until I see good change, I cannot accept your apology. Apologies won't make us forget everything you have done. They will only make us expect more of you. EDIT: I am editing this post. |
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Post by kuraikiba on Mar 31, 2011 21:34:15 GMT
Doing wrong means more is required to rectify. Do not misunderstand scolding for one's hypocrisy as ill intent.
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Post by Zrined on Apr 10, 2011 0:53:15 GMT
Kurai, I can not STAND you. Apology denied, as will all in the future until you change.
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Post by Qwerty333 on Apr 10, 2011 18:29:56 GMT
You've never done anything to me, so I can forgive you for whatever it is you may have done.
...what did you do, exactly?
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Post by Qwerty on Apr 10, 2011 20:11:34 GMT
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