Global Mods and Sensitivity
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Post by nmagain on Jun 5, 2011 16:52:27 GMT
There has always been a problem in global mods (only Rock and MF, the other two (Fox and VIROS) are perfectly fine) on this site, they are childish,punishment happy, extremely sensitive freaks who don't understand the meanings of two major forum crimes, which are trolling and flaming.
Let's start with our friend MF, shall we? We all know him, he's that guy who got demoted, banned, and promoted many times during his career as a mod here, alot of members purposely piss him off just to watch his childish reactions and complaints, and laugh at them. He bans people for the slightest slips even in unrelated sites, and warns people for posting a picture of a cock(bird), he didn't even get his moderatorship for a proper reason in the first place, he just got it because Listo liked him, and now that Listo is gone, I can't see any reason to keep it with him, so just do it!
Now about Rock, he's the "badge guy" who thinks that his shitty, clustered up, unpolished badges are better than everybody else's and starts polls and trashes the other badge in them, and even if his badge is worse, he starts coming up with reasons to make people think that his badge is the best and that they should vote for it. He rarely gets on chat, never does anything useful to the forums, and gave me a warning bar for saying that his badges aren't good and will never be, and he calls that "trolling and flaming", seriously, now? It's not insulting, inflammatory, or offtopic. Oh, and he never stops mentioning his moderator ship, almost every post of his have the phrase "only admins and global mods like me can do that" in them. He's just like Artifact, a kid that's spiteful almost all of the time, I think he should just be demoted to a normal member or to only a badge moderator.
Now, before saying anything I know that alot of members disagree with me, and I want those members to know that I don't give a Belgium about them, and I also know that alot of members agree with me like Mono.
And to you admins out there, If you don't want to do anything about it, don't, I just wanted to share my opinion about the maturity of our global mods.
Thanks for reading.
- Nmagane
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Post by Rock on Jun 5, 2011 20:50:55 GMT
Now about Rock, he's the "badge guy" who thinks that his shitty, clustered up, unpolished badges are better than everybody else's and starts polls and trashes the other badge in them, and even if his badge is worse, he starts coming up with reasons to make people think that his badge is the best and that they should vote for it. He rarely gets on chat, never does anything useful to the forums, and gave me a warning bar for saying that his badges aren't good and will never be, and he calls that "trolling and flaming", seriously, now? It's not insulting, inflammatory, or offtopic. Oh, and he never stops mentioning his moderator ship, almost every post of his have the phrase "only admins and global mods like me can do that" in them. He's just like Artifact, a kid that's spiteful almost all of the time, I think he should just be demoted to a normal member or to only a badge moderator.
Okay, well, calling someone's art shitty is pretty insulting, just as the entire paragraph is. Look at the last three badges in my sig and tell me that they're clustered and unpolished. And the only badges I've trashed are mono's 30 Badge, which I called a billiards ball, and izacs, which, in my opinion, is not good. Though I will admit it better fits the description. Correction. I never see YOU on the chat, thank God. They're little things called timezones ¬_¬ Give me one example about how I endlessly mention my moderatorship.
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Post by nmagain on Jun 5, 2011 20:57:47 GMT
Now about Rock, he's the "badge guy" who thinks that his shitty, clustered up, unpolished badges are better than everybody else's and starts polls and trashes the other badge in them, and even if his badge is worse, he starts coming up with reasons to make people think that his badge is the best and that they should vote for it. He rarely gets on chat, never does anything useful to the forums, and gave me a warning bar for saying that his badges aren't good and will never be, and he calls that "trolling and flaming", seriously, now? It's not insulting, inflammatory, or offtopic. Oh, and he never stops mentioning his moderator ship, almost every post of his have the phrase "only admins and global mods like me can do that" in them. He's just like Artifact, a kid that's spiteful almost all of the time, I think he should just be demoted to a normal member or to only a badge moderator.
Okay, well, calling someone's art shitty is pretty insulting, just as the entire paragraph is. Look at the last three badges in my sig and tell me that they're clustered and unpolished. And the only badges I've trashed are mono's 30 Badge, which I called a billiards ball, and izacs, which, in my opinion, is not good. Though I will admit it better fits the description. Correction. I never see YOU on the chat, thank God. They're little things called timezones ¬_¬ Give me one example about how I endlessly mention my moderatorship. the last three badges in your sig are clustered and unpolished and I'm currently too busy to search your posts and take pics of every single one of them, but I'll do it later, okay?
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Post by Rock on Jun 5, 2011 21:14:10 GMT
Okay, well to everyone who know how to make three clicks with a mouse and type in the number "100", I suggest you try it out by doing it here:
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on Jun 5, 2011 23:39:34 GMT
This is quite a thought provoking thread you have here, Nmagane. I do have a few arguments for Rock, though.
"Clustered and unpolished" is an acceptable way to describe badges as it describes what is wrong with a badge and what can be improved; "shitty" is not an acceptable way to describe badges, provides no clue as to how a badge can be improved, and is very insulting. From when I last checked (fine, I didn't literally check for this, but the point still stands), arguing for people to vote for your *insert noun here* is acceptable if done respectfully. American politics takes it too far during elections regardless of whether on local, state, or federal levels, granted, but without the mudslinging, is a very necessary process for elections. I don't see the point of whether someone gets on chat or not, unless it's a chat moderator who isn't a staff member, and he is a valuable addition to the forum.
I personally haven't noticed a Narcissistic tone, but then again, I can be quite Narcissistic myself at times. The warning bar really depends on what comments specifically he warned for: if it was constructive criticism that would explain how he could improve, that's not warning-worthy, but if it was destructive criticism that only makes a person feel bad and doesn't explain how to improve, then enough of those would be warning-worthy. I have talked to Rock concerning his less-than-excellent behavior when losing a badge challenge to someone, and he seems willing to change that. I have faith that he will...
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Post by Rock on Jun 5, 2011 23:45:36 GMT
Yeah, no, the warning bar was for months of hatred, the calling even my good badges "shitty" was what broke me.
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on Jun 5, 2011 23:46:46 GMT
Ok, how come the rebel scum gets away without a warning for a delayed punishment while Nmagane gets such a warning?
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Post by kuraikiba on Jun 5, 2011 23:47:29 GMT
I question if these are feelings that are shared by mainly NM or most people. In both categories, some form of punishment for his actions is the subject of his complaints.
I really haven't noticed this stuff in Rock, but the MF complaints do seem to be true.
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Post by Rock on Jun 5, 2011 23:53:04 GMT
Ok, how come the rebel scum gets away without a warning for a delayed punishment while Nmagane gets such a warning? Because, even though I wanted to do it, it would not be a popular decision to ban nmagane without warning, and, no doubt, would've resulted in a punishment of my own.. Now, however, after months of abuse, my tolerance for his actions has been depleted.
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on Jun 5, 2011 23:57:40 GMT
...and yet, for the same period of time, and complete with a trigger, when I ban Zevulon, many users apparently decide to unban him. Mind you, I'm typing about a racist, homophobic, backstabber with a brand of troll logic so high, it's named after him, and not about someone who (if you'll pardon the lack of intensity) is "merely rude."
Let's do it this way: Zevulon gets permanently banned, or Nmagane's warning (well, the part of it that came to be after you were triggered) gets removed...
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Post by Rock on Jun 6, 2011 0:09:39 GMT
Why is this decision up to me? I have indecision problems....gah...uhh
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Post by kuraikiba on Jun 6, 2011 0:32:34 GMT
...and yet, for the same period of time, and complete with a trigger, when I ban Zevulon, many users apparently decide to unban him. Mind you, I'm typing about a racist, homophobic, backstabber with a brand of troll logic so high, it's named after him, and not about someone who (if you'll pardon the lack of intensity) is "merely rude." Let's do it this way: Zevulon gets permanently banned, or Nmagane's warning (well, the part of it that came to be after you were triggered) gets removed... Veers. This thread is not about me. Yet somehow you found a way to hijack it to be all about me. Regardless of your feelings about me, I could very well say you are flaming me, as is noted by your incredible hostility, desperation for my permanent banishment, wish of completely unrealistic ill upon those who disagree with your opinions about me, and your constant revival of a settled matter.
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Post by Qwerty on Jun 6, 2011 0:35:18 GMT
Rock isn't the sole person to choose about Zevul- er, Kurai. We voted and there's no banning him again unless he actually breaks a rule. So, no, let's NOT do it that way.
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on Jun 6, 2011 0:46:58 GMT
...which is why I essentially mean for him to remove the warning. I knew Zevulon wasn't going to be banned by that faux decision, precisely for the reason you stated: there's a greater majority in favor of another "one more chance" than there is for him to be banned, even if Rock would change his vote.
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Post by Rock on Jun 6, 2011 1:04:04 GMT
Wait, why do I have to remove the warning? I have valid, recent reasoning for it...
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Post by Qwerty on Jun 6, 2011 1:11:18 GMT
For the record, though, you didn't post it in the forum warning board. It's technically invalid anyway.
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Post by Rock on Jun 6, 2011 1:14:56 GMT
I do not know where the warnings board is, I have lost the link.
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Post by kuraikiba on Jun 6, 2011 1:16:51 GMT
I didn't know there was a warnings board. There must be more boards than I thought.
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Post by Rock on Jun 6, 2011 1:27:36 GMT
Wait, isn't it just the ban board?
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Post by kuraikiba on Jun 6, 2011 1:39:06 GMT
I don't think so. I think it's the forum bans board, but that's never been used to my knowledge.
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Post by Rock on Jun 6, 2011 2:11:56 GMT
Ah, I found the link the the ban board, I'll go see if thats where I have to post it.
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Post by GloveParty on Jun 6, 2011 23:10:30 GMT
I don't remembe rVeers ever wishing ill upon people that vote against your banning, let alone unrealistic ill.... And considering that whole thing you had us going on with the supposed suicide, not to mention countless other incidents, I'd say he has good reson to feel the way he does.
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Post by izacque on Jun 7, 2011 2:30:58 GMT
I think the OP should be taken seriously
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Post by D_M-01 on Jun 16, 2011 17:21:08 GMT
Why is this decision up to me? I have indecision problems....gah...uhh It is your duty as a global moderator to base your decisions on what you presume is right in terms of forum etiquette. You are in no place to be indecisive. You have been given your role because you are thought to be able to handle problem calmly and without bias. As for user: 'Nmagane' and their statements: I do not feel that Rock or MicroFarad have done anything to receive such vulgar language, but I feel that Nmagane wants to express his view on the matter. I believe he could have done so in the previous thread "MicroFarad Demotion Request"...
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Post by Rock on Jun 18, 2011 4:12:59 GMT
That was mainly regarding the problem I was faced with. I can normally make decent decisions, but I do not like taking part in Veers' hatred of kurai.
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Post by D_M-01 on Jun 18, 2011 4:26:29 GMT
That was mainly regarding the problem I was faced with. I can normally make decent decisions, but I do not like taking part in Veers' hatred of kurai. The General does not have any hatred of user: 'KuraiKiba'. I do not know where you got that assumption from.
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Post by izacque on Jun 18, 2011 9:20:40 GMT
lol DM he does. back in the day when ZTP was in place, the general was just itching to ban him. Also, have you not noticed that the general semi-trollingly insists on calling KK7 "zevulon"?
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Post by Artifact123 on Jun 18, 2011 9:28:35 GMT
He's just like Artifact, a kid that's spiteful almost all of the time, Can't you just keep me out of this? Also: I agree a bit on MF but all Badges by Rock are nice and i'm proud to have them in my Signature.
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Post by nmagain on Jun 18, 2011 10:52:06 GMT
He's just like Artifact, a kid that's spiteful almost all of the time, Can't you just keep me out of this? Also: I agree a bit on MF but all Badges by Rock are nice and i'm proud to have them in my Signature. no, and no.
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on Jun 18, 2011 16:38:45 GMT
Odd, Nmagane. I was carrying out a donation from Artifact to you when I noticed something in your warning notes. Now, all of a sudden, I want Rock demoted to a normal member. It's odd, too, because I figured maybe I would let him stay staff in spite of problems with his stubbornness and Narcissism (to which only TheShadowLord and I jokingly have right to use, by the way), but both hypocrisy and direct disobedience? That was the trigger. Oh, he shouldn't worry, his stubbornness and egotism and hypocrisy aren't merely past events, but continuous events that make his staffship questionable...
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