Bullets & attack pattern.

[zelkova]

If you hate text then go ahead and move to the TL;DR part. This is just the reasoning why I need this info.

I still working on my VS Mode project and now I am back up to date with the game.

I simply need help with a huge factor that I simply do not wish to spend a lot of my time on. I not planning to hide the "perfect team" report that I am currently making, as a matter of fact you can see my progress here:

danball.wikia.com/wiki/User:Rakudanokuso

I not going to rely on others though as starting a group project is close to impossible regardless if I use the troll filled comment board or the half dead forums. So honestly the only thing that stopping me from keeping this from being a personal project is the idea that I want to improve on other teams that improved on my own teams. It call evolving, if there no predators then where is the need to become stronger?

Also I am a very kind person and what little help that I do receive with only case guilt if I keep the information to myself even if it was honestly it just a small percent of the report.

TL;DR: I need to know how many bullets do each weapon produce without the bullet card or in the whipper case without dex. Some weapons may not count the object as bullets but if the 2-3 fire damage effect all three of the clouds then I need to know that there are three clouds to began with. Also I need to know the effect of the bullets in VS mode. Anyone know a video that show all of the weapons attack pattern or something?

I wish Disable was still active. He would no doubt be able to give all of the info that I would need.

[zelkova]

Nov 24, 2011 19:00:59 GMT james said:

If you want to post a link like that, you're gonna need to enclose it in [ url]

[/url ] tags, else it sort of 'breaks in half'.

danball.wikia.com/wiki/User:Rakudanokuso

Like so.[/quote]

I am aware but was just too lazy to edit it. Most people would just copy&paste it if they wanted to see it.

Anyway you got my hopes up. At the moment I really need the boxer and gladiator asap as I am really focus on them at the moment.

[Rabidbadger]

danball.wikia.com/wiki/Card
Look at the section for the Bullet's card, and look at the amount of bullets added by an extra 100% bullets. That is the amount of bullets each weapon produces.

[Alphaepic]

The effect of bullets are the same in PvE and VS mode so you don't need to worry about that. Adding a bullet's card to a whipper make the card assume the whipper has 0 dex too. This means it will only release the initial number of bullets the weapon itself normally releases.

The number of bullets in each weapon are shown in the link above too.

[zelkova]

Well some weapons can't use the bullet card and still produce clouds or such.

Fire Arrow being a good example. It produce fire clouds yet if I were to guess I believe it would only create 2 arrows.

I got all of the boxer weapon attack patterns but they are pretty easy. I still need a bullet list and attack pattern for the other classes.

It is almost as if you guys didn't read my first post even though I made a TL;DR area. Disappointing

[Alphaepic]

By attack pattern do you mean the way that the bullet comes out of the weapon? If so, then I can help you with that.

The DB wiki doesn't show the way it comes out of the weapon but it does show the number of bullets a weapon releases and what type of bullet that comes out. For example, whether the arrow or clouds are doubled. danball.wikia.com/wiki/Bullet%27s_Card#Bullet.27s_Card

[zelkova]

Nov 28, 2011 0:46:11 GMT Alphaepic said:

By attack pattern do you mean the way that the bullet comes out of the weapon? If so, then I can help you with that.

The DB wiki doesn't show the way it comes out of the weapon but it does show the number of bullets a weapon releases and what type of bullet that comes out. For example, whether the arrow or clouds are doubled. danball.wikia.com/wiki/Bullet%27s_Card#Bullet.27s_Card

Yea, the way the bullet comes out. I would be grateful if you do.

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(not aiming this comment at alphaepic but at everyone in general)

As for the dan ball wiki I am quite aware that it exist but the bullet card info don't really effect the bullet count that I am looking for. Maybe I not explaining it well enough.

To get the dps for the fire arrow I would be assumed to also get the magical damage per second. Of course 1 fire cloud may do 1-1 damage (to lazy to get real values but this just an example anyway), simple. But this is not the problem. If the arrow produce 100 clouds it could be as if it was doing 100-100 damage assuming every cloud hits. If it produce 10 clouds then it would be as if it can do 10-10 damage. The bullet card info do not help with this at all if it only double up the arrow and not the clouds.

I could assume it only produce 1 cloud but at that point why would I even make a dps chart if I know for a fact it going to be wrong?

When I say bullets I mean every possible thing that can do damage.

Example:

whipper whip do 10-10 damage while tossing 10 stones that do 10-10 damage that burst and make 1 flame each which do 10-10 damage.

You can tell me that only do 110-110 damage all day long and I could put that on my chart but this will only give false information. counting the bullets that the bullet card DON'T count which would be the flames in this case this weapon can do a max of 210-210 damage. A HUGE difference pretty much doubling the amount of damage possible.

If you don't wish to count all of the possible factors of damage dealing then that sound like a personal problem to me. You could make your own chart for all that I care saying that Fire Claw do less damage then the Thunder Claw without any facts or calculations to support that theory. That would be your waste of time.

If I going to do this then I going to do it right. Speaking of which the chart currently on my profile page is incorrect as I was just messing around with ideas of how to do the formula the easy way. I will convert RP into DPS once I feel like I have the correct times for the fire weapons.