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Post by IvanYiu247 on Feb 17, 2012 7:38:31 GMT
Enjoy the new weapons.
Mach Claw
Thunder Blade (This sword accepts Bullet's Card! Creates 30 thunderbolts at the same position)
Sept Shot
Inferno Orb (throws 7 flames at the same direction, unaffected by gravity. Looks awesome at 30 DEX+ Quick's Card)
Inferno Staff (behaves like the High Light Staff but the bullet deals damage constantly)
Scattergun (improved Remington, 9 bullets, projectiles bounce off terrain)
Iron Flail
Long Chakram
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Post by Qwerty on Feb 17, 2012 8:39:44 GMT
Mach Claw? I have no idea what the weapon is but it sounds awesome.
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Post by IvanYiu247 on Feb 17, 2012 14:12:34 GMT
I tried Thunder Blade + Bullet's Card 4 + Topaz with my 50MAG+70STR Gladiator and it killed the Pyramid Boss faster than with Flame Sabel + Ruby + Garnet. I soloed it down in a minute for the Flame Sabel, but only used 40s for the Thunder Blade. That's just awesome.
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Post by RubiksMaster123 on Feb 17, 2012 21:47:01 GMT
Inferno is pretty good. Would Bullet's Card and Quick's card be the best combo for it?
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Post by Alonso on Feb 17, 2012 22:10:48 GMT
I got no weapons and I went through this stage 7 times, what is wrong with
my luck.
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Post by Alphaepic on Feb 17, 2012 23:38:43 GMT
It's not a new stage...
The Scattergun is pretty cool for groups of flying enemies but not much else. The Inferno and Thunder Blade are by far the best additions in my opinion.
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Post by RubiksMaster123 on Feb 18, 2012 0:47:10 GMT
It's not a new stage... The Scattergun is pretty cool for groups of flying enemies but not much else. The Inferno and Thunder Blade are by far the best additions in my opinion. I wanna try thunder blade...too bad my gladiator team is only around SM Shrine. |
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Post by IvanYiu247 on Feb 18, 2012 1:30:35 GMT
Inferno is pretty good. Would Bullet's Card and Quick's card be the best combo for it? I think so. But don't use Inferno if the Magician has too much STR. The flames can't reach the enemies even with a Garnet 4. BTW, Thunder Blade is really great while cheap to use (30MAG). So do your best to get through the stages! |
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Post by Alphaepic on Feb 18, 2012 1:52:17 GMT
Quick's Card would be alright for it, but it seeing as it still wouldn't fire that fast I would try a Jewel.
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Post by Alonso on Feb 18, 2012 21:49:05 GMT
Sorry I meant the stage, it is the newest. I went theough the newest stage. Anyway now I get weapons but none are mages. Really annoying like me.
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Post by RubiksMaster123 on Feb 18, 2012 22:47:04 GMT
Sorry I meant the stage, it is the newest. I went theough the newest stage. Anyway now I get weapons but none are mages. Really annoying like me. Are you doing Snowfield 2? I think that's where the Inferno drops. |
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Post by blaster on Feb 19, 2012 4:01:46 GMT
I don't think inferno will suit my mage, for they will have a range of 150 with them, I don't think it can hit anything.
I'm definitely getting a sept shot for my snipers as a back-up, taking place of the quint shot
EDIT: I think Inferno would work the best if they have an initial range of 45. Because they can hit better, but won't take too much damage if you have a boxer or gladiator.
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Post by Alphaepic on Feb 19, 2012 4:50:42 GMT
The next weapons update might bring the Ice Blade for the Gladiators, as well as the higher level Rifle for Gunners.
If it does, VS mode will change a lot.
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Post by Alonso on Feb 19, 2012 15:22:54 GMT
I am, I am doin all of the recent stages for them, however I shall mow concentrate on snowfeild 2.
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Post by Qwerty on Feb 20, 2012 4:42:47 GMT
Here, this vid shows the new weapons:
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Post by Alphaepic on Feb 21, 2012 19:42:39 GMT
If you add enough DEX to a Gunner, can it reach 5-10 on all its weapons? If so, putting a Bullets/Quick's Card 4 combo on a Gunner equipped with a Scattergun with enough DEX to make the Scattergun's AGI 5-10, and the rest STR could deal pretty high DMG. This, with 3 Priests, would have an incredibly high DPS.
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Post by Alonso on Feb 21, 2012 20:41:46 GMT
Love the video, does anyonehate it when the account lPGA off and youbforget to save it. Well now I am back to resort. Sigh* this could take a while as I can't be bothered to much.
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Post by RubiksMaster123 on Feb 21, 2012 20:42:26 GMT
Here's some calculations
With 140 DEX and a Quick's Card 4, the AGI of Scattergun would be 8-9 (the max AGI can go below 10 when using quick's card). 50/8.5 is about 5.8 shots per second
With Bullet's Card 4, there would be 18 bullets of 1-80, which is on average 729 damage per "shot". Multiply that with how many shots per second, and you get 4288, which is pretty high.
correct me on any mistakes...
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Post by Rabidbadger on Feb 21, 2012 21:01:04 GMT
If you add enough DEX to a Gunner, can it reach 5-10 on all its weapons? If so, putting a Bullets/Quick's Card 4 combo on a Gunner equipped with a Scattergun with enough DEX to make the Scattergun's AGI 5-10, and the rest STR could deal pretty high DMG. This, with 3 Priests, would have an incredibly high DPS. Yeah. I have been planning to do this for ages, but the build takes too long for me to be bothered. 18 bullets at 1-80 damage each will be 18-1,440 per shot. Assuming 40fps, with an AGI of 3-6, this means 7-13 shots a second, or (126-234) to (10,080-18,720) damage per second. With three priests with 100 STR each, this will quadruple the DPS, meaning that in the end, assuming all shots hit, this will do (504-936) to (40,320-74,880) DPS. This is not without cost. Assuming no MAG has been pumped into the class, each shot costs 40 gold. At 7-13 shots a second, gold cost per second would be 280-520. Now, with the size of the Pyramid Boss, it is likely that most shots would hit. This means that you could kill him in (159-86) to (2-2) seconds, without priest damage included. The cost, however, would be (6360-3440) to (80-80) gold. The scattergun is thus awesome. EDIT: This assumes that 5-10 AGI has been achieved through overwhelming dexterity. Otherwise damage outputs would be far lower/ |
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Post by Alphaepic on Feb 21, 2012 21:53:19 GMT
Mini-Uzi and 3-Round-Burst still beat it, but the Scattergun is pretty good for groups of flying enemies.
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Post by RubiksMaster123 on Feb 22, 2012 2:36:07 GMT
If you add enough DEX to a Gunner, can it reach 5-10 on all its weapons? If so, putting a Bullets/Quick's Card 4 combo on a Gunner equipped with a Scattergun with enough DEX to make the Scattergun's AGI 5-10, and the rest STR could deal pretty high DMG. This, with 3 Priests, would have an incredibly high DPS. Yeah. I have been planning to do this for ages, but the build takes too long for me to be bothered. 18 bullets at 1-80 damage each will be 18-1,440 per shot. Assuming 40fps, with an AGI of 3-6, this means 7-13 shots a second, or (126-234) to (10,080-18,720) damage per second. With three priests with 100 STR each, this will quadruple the DPS, meaning that in the end, assuming all shots hit, this will do (504-936) to (40,320-74,880) DPS. This is not without cost. Assuming no MAG has been pumped into the class, each shot costs 40 gold. At 7-13 shots a second, gold cost per second would be 280-520. Now, with the size of the Pyramid Boss, it is likely that most shots would hit. This means that you could kill him in (159-86) to (2-2) seconds, without priest damage included. The cost, however, would be (6360-3440) to (80-80) gold. The scattergun is thus awesome. EDIT: This assumes that 5-10 AGI has been achieved through overwhelming dexterity. Otherwise damage outputs would be far lower/ Err...some comments 1. I'm not sure if you can reach that low of an AGI even with a quick's card and all DEX, if you use the formula on the dan-ball wiki: AGIequipped = AGIweapon/(1+(DEX × 0.02) (lowest 5 - 10) Plug in 140, which is the DEX you get at level 71, and you get: AGI (min)= 50/(1+(140*0.02))=50/3.8=13.15...*0.6 (quick's card)= 8 AGI (rounded to nearest whole number) AGI (max)=60/(1+(140*0.02))=60/3.8=15.78...*0.6 (quick's card)= 9 AGI (rounded) 2. Do you use 40 fps or 50 fps, cause I've been using 50 fps for all my previous calculations. |
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Post by Alphaepic on Feb 22, 2012 5:12:22 GMT
I think that 5 AGI = 0.1 seconds. Using that you could probably figure out the rate per second.
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Post by HueHuey on Feb 28, 2012 17:55:20 GMT
best compos for Inferno Orb is Bullet's Card + Guide's Card since heat clouds keep hitting enemies
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