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Post by nmagain on May 13, 2012 20:45:37 GMT
Lately our new admin has been having a zero tolerance policy on me. first i got banned for saying "penis up ur butt fox" with 0 warnings beforehand, then i get banned for something that other moderators and members do all the time (say ~the n word!~ in a jokingly manner) and today i got banned for calling vertigo black! here is what happened today: vertigo: your Wing-dang-doodle was stolen! me: did u steal my Wing-dang-doodle anon:vertigo can steal anything me: hes black lOL fox: THAT'S RACIST! BAN! I don't think anybody should be banned if he's NOT offending anybody WHATSOEVER, fox thinks he's a good admin by being such a strict mod, but he's WRONG! please grow up fox doing this is not safe! edit: and HEY, even if it is against the rules, why don't i get a warning? just because i have a "bad track record" doesn't mean that everything i do deserves a ban while mono and iza (examples!) get away with it for being mods. so yeah, *STOP* doing this...!
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Post by FoxtrotZero on May 13, 2012 20:53:10 GMT
I don't have anything not already known to say in my defence, other than the fact that Nmagane knows when he is breaking the rules, and he is wrong when he thinks he can get by doing so, despite the fact that it's been proven otherwise.
Addendum: Mono and Iza don't get off the hook for things for being moderators. Firstly because they can't be banned, and second because they aren't constant trolls. The things they do are nowhere near as severe or frequent as NM does. As I said, NM knows when he's breaking the rules. If he wants me to give him some slack, he needs to be less of a constant pain in the ass.
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Post by nmagain on May 13, 2012 20:54:46 GMT
Yes, but can't you specify why i DON'T GET ANY FUCKING WARNINGS BEFORE A DIRECT BAN while every other member does? Edit: i'm not a pain in the ass, you're an overstrict mod. literally no other mod than you would do what you're doing right now. stop doing it. i mean, seriously, what kind of person would ban for calling someone else black?
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Post by D_M-01 on May 14, 2012 1:00:30 GMT
Calm your tits.
We are all friends here.
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Post by Artifact123 on May 14, 2012 5:03:36 GMT
i'm not a pain in the ass I vote for this as funniest post of 2012.
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Post by nmagain on May 14, 2012 10:34:01 GMT
i'm not a pain in the ass I vote for this as funniest post of 2012. i vote this for the dumbest noncontributing post of 2012, your sense of humor sure is weird.
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Post by Zrined on May 15, 2012 0:13:49 GMT
I vote for this as funniest post of 2012. i vote this for the dumbest noncontributing post of 2012, your sense of humor sure is weird. I vote for this as most hypocritical post of 2012.
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Post by Clockwork on May 15, 2012 0:17:45 GMT
Yes, but can't you specify why i DON'T GET ANY FUCKING WARNINGS BEFORE A DIRECT BAN while every other member does? Edit: i'm not a pain in the ass, you're an overstrict mod. literally no other mod than you would do what you're doing right now. stop doing it. i mean, seriously, what kind of person would ban for calling someone else black? You're saying that Fox is a bad mod because no other mod is doing what he is doing. I would say, rather, that he is doing what all other mods are doing. You want to know why you are not getting warnings? Because you never fucking stop. The reason people can say racial slurs playfully is because it isn't an all-time thing. I've referred to Vertigo thusly twice in the last month. I've never said, "penis is ur butt fox", because really, who the hell is that stupid? Maybe you could stop making shit posts and actually contribute for a change. The reason you don't get warnings is you already know you're breaking the rules and you never stop. You don't need warnings, you need some restraint. Praise Jesus!
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on May 15, 2012 2:24:30 GMT
First of all, I know of no moderator who uses racial slurs - if they are doing so, they're doing so in fear of losing their posts as chat moderators.
Secondly, if it's true that FoxtrotZero is being stricter than the rest of us, that's a good thing and he's right to be so.
Thirdly, you should know very well that being patently and blatantly offensive is going to get you banned. You need no warning for something you already know. Once upon a time, there was a clause in the rules saying that we have the right to ban without warning anyone being idiotic by purposely breaking rules, which, among other things, includes exactly what you were doing.
Besides, do you really thank the Triumvir who slackened the censors with such a threat of rape? If FoxtrotZero isn't banning you for at least 24 hours, he isn't banning you long enough. Grow up and show FoxtrotZero some respect.
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Post by V.I.R.O.S. on May 15, 2012 2:54:29 GMT
First of all, I know of no moderator who uses racial slurs - if they are doing so, they're doing so in fear of losing their posts as chat moderators. Secondly, if it's true that FoxtrotZero is being stricter than the rest of us, that's a good thing and he's right to be so. Thirdly, you should know very well that being patently and blatantly offensive is going to get you banned. You need no warning for something you already know. Once upon a time, there was a clause in the rules saying that we have the right to ban without warning anyone being idiotic by purposely breaking rules, which, among other things, includes exactly what you were doing. Besides, do you really thank the Triumvir who slackened the censors with such a threat of rape? If FoxtrotZero isn't banning you for at least 24 hours, he isn't banning you long enough. Grow up and show FoxtrotZero some respect. Besides, do you really thank the Triumvir who slackened the censors with such a threat of rape? If FoxtrotZero isn't banning you for at least 24 hours, he isn't banning you long enough. Grow up and show FoxtrotZero some respect. Grow up and show FoxtrotZero some respect.
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Post by nmagain on May 15, 2012 12:27:48 GMT
First of all, I know of no moderator who uses racial slurs - if they are doing so, they're doing so in fear of losing their posts as chat moderators. mono does it all the time *stop* zero tolerance policy is good? wrong . (big period!!!!!) calling someone black is offensive and is worthy a ban? sorry, that is wrong and is why mono unbanned me right after fox left. *stop* *stop* you don't even know the full story to this, i was not even serious *stop* and it happened way before the censorship change
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on May 15, 2012 16:11:09 GMT
I'm not saying Zero Tolerance Policy is good, I'm saying that banning users who know better and don't need warned when no other moderator will do so is good. I'm not sure what to say about calling someone black or white or whatever other color or race or ethnicity, but I can guarantee you that suggesting someone be raped is unacceptable. That is why FoxtrotZero is right and you should not have been unbanned (until at least 24 hours passed since the ban).
Also, why are you telling me off for "not knowing the full story" when the only story I read was yours? Oh, right, because you definitely would give me an utterly biased, incomplete telling of what happened from your perspective. In this case, my not knowing the full story is a direct consequence of you failing to give me the full story...
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Post by nmagain on May 15, 2012 16:32:21 GMT
this perspective of me is really nice, thank you. anyway, i'll give you what happened, it was pretty much a misunderstanding by me.
anon: modnary is gay fox: warning. anon: excuse me? fox: you are excused (unfunny dry humor which i understood as taking the warning off anon) me: what??? me: penis up ur butt fox now, before i say "excuse me" to try to get the WARNING i'm supposed to get removed, he bans me!!!
what a zero tolerance police cop!
edit:
every single moderator on this forum warns people, this is literal ZTP.
you know what, i'll just wait until iza writes his new shit report, he's better than me at explaining how bad this forum is. (it's going to be about this)
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Post by Zrined on May 15, 2012 19:49:19 GMT
Sometimes I think we just keep NM around here for laughs xD
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Post by Qwerty on May 15, 2012 22:18:59 GMT
Yeeah, you do realize that Izacque does know what you are like? We might let you get away with your antics most of the time, but that doesn't mean we should. If you think the forum is crap, it'd be better for both parties to just go their separate ways.
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Post by D_M-01 on Jun 8, 2012 3:34:53 GMT
I think we should calm down and realize that Nmagane does have a valid point, albeit he may not have presented it the most proper way.
For one thing, I feel Nmagane keeps the chat entertained and is a very active participant. I also feel that his jokes tend to be taken far too seriously.
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Post by Qwerty on Jun 8, 2012 3:38:02 GMT
That makes one person. He has not once considered that maybe, just maybe, if his jokes are taken too seriously, he should just not make them and come up with a more mature way to be humourous? If by "keeps the chat entertained" you mean "drives people away", you're right.
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Post by D_M-01 on Jun 8, 2012 3:40:15 GMT
But you can't just tell an active member to go away. We tried that with BoL and Artik, remember? How well did that go?
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Post by Qwerty on Jun 8, 2012 3:41:15 GMT
They left?
Anyway, I'm not just telling him to go away. I'm saying he has to shape up his act and start acting like a normal, mature member, or at least pretend to be.
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Post by D_M-01 on Jun 8, 2012 3:47:00 GMT
HistoryNmagane isn't the only person you'll have to change if you want to succeed. There are a number of users that act in the same manner not only on the chat but on the forum.
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Post by nmagain on Jun 8, 2012 11:50:24 GMT
hello i know people take me way too seriously, but this is their problem not mine goodbye
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Post by Qwerty on Jun 8, 2012 13:27:51 GMT
Your jokes are immature and you act childish. That is your problem, not the people that are offended by you.
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Post by nmagain on Jun 8, 2012 13:57:54 GMT
you should really get over this grudge, you are being immature here.
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Post by Zrined on Jun 8, 2012 18:26:23 GMT
NM, shut the hell up.
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Post by nmagain on Jun 8, 2012 19:33:17 GMT
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Post by D_M-01 on Jun 8, 2012 19:33:34 GMT
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Post by Zrined on Jun 8, 2012 20:09:52 GMT
It's not flaming if it's deserved.
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on Jun 8, 2012 22:05:09 GMT
Stop it, just stop it! Why does this have to be such a difficult problem? Why must we all keep tormenting each other like this? Why can't we all be nice to each other?
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Post by D_M-01 on Jun 8, 2012 23:17:07 GMT
This all started because somebody took a joke way too seriously.
Come on now, we're better than this.
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Post by Zrined on Jun 8, 2012 23:46:01 GMT
I just don't get why this is tolerated, if anyone else were to do the same things NM does, we'd be gone.
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