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Post by Qwerty333 on Sept 16, 2010 20:55:28 GMT
Name: Qwerty333
Details of problem: So, recently I was given a 50% warning level for "blatant manipulation of evidence" for screenshots of Micro Farad committing what I thought at the time to be power abuse. This turned out not to be the case, but I don't understand why I was given this 50% warning level for "manipulating" the evidence. Is this because I didn't have the time showing? If so, then I'm sorry, but I'm not trying to hide anything or specifically get MF demoted, I just wanted to bring the now resolved issue to attention.
Possible solution to problem: A lowered warning level, maybe? I didn't mean to "manipulate" the evidence, I just didn't get a screenshot of the time, that's all.
EDIT: Along with this, I have been accused of putting the screenshots out of order (I guess that's the "manipulating evidence"), which I can assure you I did not do. Would you like to see the history on my computer of the times I took these screenshots? I didn't mean to cause any trouble with that thread...
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Post by sparkpowder on Sept 16, 2010 21:08:15 GMT
Name: Qwerty333 Details of problem: So, recently I was given a 50% warning level for "blatant manipulation of evidence" for screenshots of Micro Farad committing what I thought at the time to be power abuse. This turned out not to be the case, but I don't understand why I was given this 50% warning level for "manipulating" the evidence. Is this because I didn't have the time showing? If so, then I'm sorry, but I'm not trying to hide anything or specifically get MF demoted, I just wanted to bring the now resolved issue to attention. Possible solution to problem: A lowered warning level, maybe? I didn't mean to "manipulate" the evidence, I just didn't get a screenshot of the time, that's all. EDIT: Along with this, I have been accused of putting the screenshots out of order (I guess that's the "manipulating evidence"), which I can assure you I did not do. Would you like to see the history on my computer of the times I took these screenshots? I didn't mean to cause any trouble with that thread... Yes, I think it would be helpful if we could see the logs on your computer. I'll PM them. |
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Post by Qwerty on Sept 16, 2010 21:09:03 GMT
It is true that we can't actually prove that you manipulated the screenshots, although it is odd that they are all different sizes.
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Post by disabled on Sept 16, 2010 21:17:38 GMT
Thats what I like about the moderation on this forum. Lock threads, warn people don't ask questions, especially not the users...
Not.
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Post by Qwerty333 on Sept 16, 2010 21:44:45 GMT
It is true that we can't actually prove that you manipulated the screenshots, although it is odd that they are all different sizes. I used Option+Shift+4 on the Mac, which is for a click and drag screenshot, so they're almost never the same size. I'll post my computer log later, I'm busy right now. EDIT: Here they are. Innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent. -.-       |
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on Sept 16, 2010 21:54:51 GMT
I locked the thread so that a staff member reviewing the appeal could have an unaltered thread at his disposal.
I warned someone because a ban was certainly too much, despite a testimony that the screenshots were moved out of order and ergo taken out of context.
I'll admit to not asking questions, and I apologize for the mistake, but I will point out that the appeals process exists to palliate any mistakes made during faulty assessments of accusations or broken rules.
You use a manual click-and-drag screenshot? That would explain the different sized screenshots, but do you mind if I ask why you didn't take the time too? If I am correct, you cannot see the 75% IP addresses on the chat, and ergo do not need to worry about censoring them from the image.
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Post by Qwerty333 on Sept 16, 2010 21:58:09 GMT
I locked the thread so that a staff member reviewing the appeal could have an unaltered thread at his disposal. I warned someone because a ban was certainly too much, despite a testimony that the screenshots were moved out of order and ergo taken out of context. I'll admit to not asking questions, and I apologize for the mistake, but I will point out that the appeals process exists to palliate any mistakes made during faulty assessments of accusations or broken rules.
You use a manual click-and-drag screenshot? That would explain the different sized screenshots, but do you mind if I ask why you didn't take the time too? If I am correct, you cannot see the 75% IP addresses on the chat, and ergo do not need to worry about censoring them from the image. I wasn't thinking about the time stamps. I just clicked and dragged over the text because I was careless and mad about the unfolding situation. I didn't think I would be accused of manipulation of evidence. |
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Post by disabled on Sept 16, 2010 22:50:49 GMT
I should really create that permanent chatlog prog someday...
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Post by Qwerty333 on Sept 17, 2010 2:10:06 GMT
I should really create that permanent chatlog prog someday... Please. I beg of you. |
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Post by microfarad on Sept 17, 2010 7:45:16 GMT
The screenshots were NOT out of order. However, this is an awfully one sided story since LATER screenshots were either not taken or omitted, see my comments in the thread where this all started.
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Post by nmagain on Sept 17, 2010 8:36:48 GMT
Please don't start this again...
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Post by sparkpowder on Sept 17, 2010 11:16:46 GMT
Please don't start this again... Yes. My verdict is: Innocent. Does any other member of the jury agree with my decision? EDIT: As I am not an admin, the admins may delete my post at any time. I declared him innocent because it isn't his fault the the screenshots were different sizes. |
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Post by nmagain on Sept 17, 2010 12:17:46 GMT
You can delete your own posts.
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Post by Qwerty on Sept 17, 2010 14:08:58 GMT
I'm going with innocent as well.
Disabled, why did you make that generalization of all members? Didn't you notice me asking questions? True, most of it was in chat and over PM, but I was definitely doubtful that it was faked.
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Post by disabled on Sept 17, 2010 14:44:37 GMT
I generalized not only the mods, but also the occasions. You didn't lock this thread, but you locked enough threads, so no further discussion was possible.
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Post by Qwerty on Sept 18, 2010 0:55:16 GMT
What? I only lock threads after massive bumps when people refuse to let it die or when a thread is excessively spammy, not to "cut off a conversation". Plus, I'm an admin, not a mod.
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Post by zaixionito on Sept 18, 2010 14:45:58 GMT
What? I only lock threads after massive bumps when people refuse to let it die or when a thread is excessively spammy, not to "cut off a conversation". Plus, I'm an admin, not a mod. Qwerty, others lock to cut off conversations. Ie, the second MF thread, where people said that there was power abuse... EDIT: I don't see anything wrong with locks. Just pointing out what happened, even though I thought that it was fine to lock it so that people could be evluated without new posts. |
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Post by kuraikiba on Sept 18, 2010 15:57:39 GMT
A sad example of use of the Argument from authority fallacy, showing that Micro is indeed incapable of solving them in a proper way. Tsk Tsk.
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