Post by izacque on Feb 26, 2012 18:37:00 GMT
So recently we've been having troubles with trolling. What's allowed and what's not. We can't simply allow all trolling because some trolling can potentially seriously hurt people's feelings. We also can't ban all trolling because trolling is impossible to objectively define, and some users actually enjoy trolling and being trolled by each other.
My Solution: We can't expect people to anticipate whether or not they will offend somebody. "Gay black person who's way cooler than me bitch" might seriously offend one person, while another person will think it's a good joke. But, people can SAY that they're offended. Obviously, we can't tell if they're really offended, but that's okay; Is it too much to ask that you stop calling people "Gay black person who's way cooler than me bitch" when they tell you to stop, even if they're not really offended. Key here, is that the offended party tell the other person to stop. If GV* trolls NM and NM gets mad and trolls GV back, and they both get mad, yet neither tells the other to stop. They shouldn't get banned for trolling (they might get banned for other reasons, depending on their argument).
This rule is not objective. It can't be. It is the chat mod's decision whether or not the offender's posts are banable. For example, if Vert tells Mono to stop calling him Vert, but mono keeps doing it, Mono need not be banned because "Vert" is not interpreted as an insult by reasonable people.
A second problem: The chat mods (well, I, at least) don't have any standard for how long to ban people for what things. I just ban people for what seems like a reasonable amount of time, and then they complain that others have been banned for similar offenses for more or less time. Also, I have no way of recording the bans I make. Both these problems could be solved if all chat mods are given the password to the ban record board.
*usernames were chosen at pseudo-random
My Solution: We can't expect people to anticipate whether or not they will offend somebody. "Gay black person who's way cooler than me bitch" might seriously offend one person, while another person will think it's a good joke. But, people can SAY that they're offended. Obviously, we can't tell if they're really offended, but that's okay; Is it too much to ask that you stop calling people "Gay black person who's way cooler than me bitch" when they tell you to stop, even if they're not really offended. Key here, is that the offended party tell the other person to stop. If GV* trolls NM and NM gets mad and trolls GV back, and they both get mad, yet neither tells the other to stop. They shouldn't get banned for trolling (they might get banned for other reasons, depending on their argument).
This rule is not objective. It can't be. It is the chat mod's decision whether or not the offender's posts are banable. For example, if Vert tells Mono to stop calling him Vert, but mono keeps doing it, Mono need not be banned because "Vert" is not interpreted as an insult by reasonable people.
A second problem: The chat mods (well, I, at least) don't have any standard for how long to ban people for what things. I just ban people for what seems like a reasonable amount of time, and then they complain that others have been banned for similar offenses for more or less time. Also, I have no way of recording the bans I make. Both these problems could be solved if all chat mods are given the password to the ban record board.
*usernames were chosen at pseudo-random
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