Decoding Upload Codes

[Qwerty]

I know we got in the habit of not doing it, but now that Listo is gone there is nothing stopping anyone from doing it, not that it would have any use. I know some people have done it already, this is more of a people-figuring-it-out thread.

[Elmach]

EDIT: I will have all the information I've found in this spoiler right here.

SPOILER: Click to show

? 0?
? 0?
BG
DOT
GRID
SPEED
SIDE
?
?
?
?
?
STAR
(Middle)
STAR
?
?
?
?
?
?
? Error checking?
? Error checking?
? Error checking?

(Original post below)

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I think that the first three digits are the kind of background.

BG-non, BG-air, BG-line, ... BG-TG, BG-siluet, etc.

Of course, that much you can find in the wiki.

I've noticed that the more dots you add, the bigger the save code.

I wonder what the save code would look for a blank screen...

0030000000000*02002*01*03*06*05*0800400A*0700B*09*0C*0F*0E*0H00D00J*0G00K*0I*0L*0O*0N*0Q00M00S*0P00T*0R*0U*0X*0W*0Z00V00b*0Y00c*0a*0d*0g*0f*0i00e00k*0h00l*0j*0m*0p*0o*0r00n00t*0q00u*0s*0v*0y*0x*0.00w010*0z011*0**12*15*14*17013019*1601A*18*1B*1E*1D*1G01C01I*1F01J*1H*1K*1N*1M*0js00vfB4

Lots of 0's, stars, and cryptic letters.

0010000000000*02002*01*03*06*05*0800400A*0700B*09*0C*0F*0E*0H00D00J*0G00K*0I*0L*0O*0N*0Q00M00S*0P00T*0R*0U*0X*0W*0Z00V00b*0Y00c*0a*0d*0g*0f*0i00e00k*0h00l*0j*0m*0p*0o*0r00n00t*0q00u*0s*0v*0y*0x*0.00w010*0z011*0**12*15*14*17013019*1601A*18*1B*1E*1D*1G01C01I*1F01J*1H*1K*1N*1M*0js00vpA4

for BG-non.

Nice to know some things stay the same.

0010001000000*02002*01*03*06*05*0800400A*0700B*09*0C*0F*0E*0H00D00J*0G00K*0I*0L*0O*0N*0Q00M00S*0P00T*0R*0U*0X*0W*0Z00V00b*0Y00c*0a*0d*0g*0f*0i00e00k*0h00l*0j*0m*0p*0o*0r00n00t*0q00u*0s*0v*0y*0x*0.00w010*0z011*0**12*15*14*17013019*1601A*18*1B*1E*1D*1G01C01I*1F01J*1H*1K*1N*1M*0js00vgB4

Side-Loop and BG-non.

One of the 0's (the 7th digit) turned into a 1. Perhaps it toggles Side?

I don't like the A4/B4 at the end. It isn't consistent.

[Artifact123]

Wouldn't it be possible to "write" an Upload?

[~Memzak~]

Yes, but it would be very hard to just write it. What would be easier would be to write a program to write an upload...

Owait, we have PG for that.

Although being able to decipher codes would be nice too...

[Qwerty]

You know, once I accidentally mixed two upload codes together and both the uploads appeared on the same screen. Maybe each part is a set of coordinates or something?

[~Memzak~]

There is a section of it where there are just coordinates. That and what element is at which coordinate.

Perhaps we could find not-yet-perfected elements but code manipulating.

[Qwerty]

It would be awesome to be able to mix uploads together, move stuff around in uploads en masse, stuff like that.

[~Memzak~]

Heh... yea...

But I'm more interested in finding unimpletemented elements that are just there and have half (or none or all) of their reactions coded and being able to use it...

[Qwerty]

We should most likely check the .classes to speed this up a bit.

In the meantime:

Blank screen, Side off, BG-Line:

0030000000100*02102*01*03*06*05*01w00q00004000v00u01u0B*0200Du0F00Cv0E10E00Ku0J*0Hv0Lu0G*0Bv0Q00N10M*0Pu0O*0Su0X00I10V*0Y10b00au0R00e00Uu0fv0T*0W10dv0j*0cu0iu0Zv0m00g*0ku0o10lu0pu0v10u10xu0tu0z00h00**0s010*0n01200r*13*11*17*16*1901501Bv0qv1Du0wu0.*1801Cu1F014v1E10y01Ku1J*1Hv1Lu1G*1Av1Q01N11M*1Pu1O*1Su1X01I11V*1Y11b01au1R01e01Uu1fv1T*1W11dv1j*1cu1iu1Zv1m01g*1ku1o11lu1pu1v11u11xu1tu1z01h01**1s020*1n02201r*23*21*27*26*2902502Bv1qv2Du1wu1.*2802Cu2F024v2E11y02Ku2J*2Hv2Lu2G*2Av2Q02N12M*2Pu2O*2Su2X02I12V*2Y12b02au2R02e02Uu2fv2T*2W12dv2j*2cu2iu2Zv2m02g*2ku2o12lu2pu2v12u12xu2tu2z02h02**2s00U*07104134*33w0A0gB3

Same, with Side-loop:

0030001000100*02102*01*03*06*05*01w00q00004000v00u01u0B*0200Du0F00Cv0E10E00Ku0J*0Hv0Lu0G*0Bv0Q00N10M*0Pu0O*0Su0X00I10V*0Y10b00au0R00e00Uu0fv0T*0W10dv0j*0cu0iu0Zv0m00g*0ku0o10lu0pu0v10u10xu0tu0z00h00**0s010*0n01200r*13*11*17*16*1901501Bv0qv1Du0wu0.*1801Cu1F014v1E10y01Ku1J*1Hv1Lu1G*1Av1Q01N11M*1Pu1O*1Su1X01I11V*1Y11b01au1R01e01Uu1fv1T*1W11dv1j*1cu1iu1Zv1m01g*1ku1o11lu1pu1v11u11xu1tu1z01h01**1s020*1n02201r*23*21*27*26*2902502Bv1qv2Du1wu1.*2802Cu2F024v2E11y02Ku2J*2Hv2Lu2G*2Av2Q02N12M*2Pu2O*2Su2X02I12V*2Y12b02au2R02e02Uu2fv2T*2W12dv2j*2cu2iu2Zv2m02g*2ku2o12lu2pu2v12u12xu2tu2z02h02**2s00U*07104134*33w0A0nB3

Now for "Spot the difference".

[Elmach]

I found it in my first post in the thread.

1,2,3 digits control BG.
4 controls ?
5 controls ?
6 controls SIDE
7 controls ?
8 controls ?
9 controls ?
10 controls ?
11 controls ?
12 controls ?


HYPOTHESIS: Each group of three digits controls a different thingy. First set is BG, second is SIDE, third is ?, fourth is ?.

Are there any other toggles?

[Qwerty]

Not that I can think of. Maybe we can flip stuff randomly, try some different BGs, see how that goes? Maybe it's coded in such a way that 456 and 789 and 10-11-12 all control one thing each.

[droctagonapus]

also, it appears that every dot added increases the save code length by 3(not ads 3 to the end, but makes it 3 longer, with a significant part staying the same

(only tested with having nothing, haivng 1 powder at the top, and having antohter powder right to the right of that)

[Qwerty]

Only three? I would have thought it was more.

How about non-elements? Block, players?

[droctagonapus]

I did not try those. I think changing dots on a "blank canvas" might be easiest to start with, and if we figure that out the rest may become easier. however, that might not be true.

also, what about elemental balls?

[ganondorfchampin]

Everything before the 1st * controls a menu setting.

[Elmach]

Oct 21, 2010 4:08:04 GMT Qwerty said:

Not that I can think of. Maybe we can flip stuff randomly, try some different BGs, see how that goes? Maybe it's coded in such a way that 456 and 789 and 10-11-12 all control one thing each.

... Wasn't that my hypothesis?

Oct 22, 2010 4:47:53 GMT droctagonapus said:

also, it appears that every dot added increases the save code length by 3(not ads 3 to the end, but makes it 3 longer, with a significant part staying the same

(only tested with having nothing, haivng 1 powder at the top, and having antohter powder right to the right of that)

I wonder... what group of three was added, and where?

[darkchaos10]

Speed is affected by two characters:
The 6th character and the 3rd from last character:
Speed x1 = (6th char == '0')&(3rd from last char == 'g')
Speed x2 = (6th char == '1')&(3rd from last char == 'm')
Speed x4 = (6th char == '2')&(3rd from last char == 'c')
Speed x8 = (6th char == '3')&(3rd from last char == 'i')
If the char that is 3rd from last does not match the 6th char in terms of representing the same speed, you get an error(Example: having the 6th char '1' and 3rd from last char 'i' will produce an error)
I don't know why it is those letters, but I have found it by comparing the 4 speeds codes at those settings: blank, BG-LINE, DOT S, SIDE OFF, GRID 0.
The codes:
speed = x1
0030000000100*02102*01*03*06*05*01w00q00004000v00u01u0B*0200Du0F00Cv0E10E00Ku0J*0Hv0Lu0G*0Bv0Q00N10M*0Pu0O*0Su0X00I10V*0Y10b00au0R00e00Uu0fv0T*0W10dv0j*0cu0iu0Zv0m00g*0ku0o10lu0pu0v10u10xu0tu0z00h00**0s010*0n01200r*13*11*17*16*1901501Bv0qv1Du0wu0.*1801Cu1F014v1E10y01Ku1J*1Hv1Lu1G*1Av1Q01N11M*1Pu1O*1Su1X01I11V*1Y11b01au1R01e01Uu1fv1T*1W11dv1j*1cu1iu1Zv1m01g*1ku1o11lu1pu1v11u11xu1tu1z01h01**1s020*1n02201r*23*21*27*26*2902502Bv1qv2Du1wu1.*2802Cu2F024v2E11y02Ku2J*2Hv2Lu2G*2Av2Q02N12M*2Pu2O*2Su2X02I12V*2Y12b02au2R02e02Uu2fv2T*2W12dv2j*2cu2iu2Zv2m02g*2ku2o12lu2pu2v12u12xu2tu2z02h02**2s00U*07104134*33w0A0gB3
speed = x2
0030010000100*02102*01*03*06*05*01w00q00004000v00u01u0B*0200Du0F00Cv0E10E00Ku0J*0Hv0Lu0G*0Bv0Q00N10M*0Pu0O*0Su0X00I10V*0Y10b00au0R00e00Uu0fv0T*0W10dv0j*0cu0iu0Zv0m00g*0ku0o10lu0pu0v10u10xu0tu0z00h00**0s010*0n01200r*13*11*17*16*1901501Bv0qv1Du0wu0.*1801Cu1F014v1E10y01Ku1J*1Hv1Lu1G*1Av1Q01N11M*1Pu1O*1Su1X01I11V*1Y11b01au1R01e01Uu1fv1T*1W11dv1j*1cu1iu1Zv1m01g*1ku1o11lu1pu1v11u11xu1tu1z01h01**1s020*1n02201r*23*21*27*26*2902502Bv1qv2Du1wu1.*2802Cu2F024v2E11y02Ku2J*2Hv2Lu2G*2Av2Q02N12M*2Pu2O*2Su2X02I12V*2Y12b02au2R02e02Uu2fv2T*2W12dv2j*2cu2iu2Zv2m02g*2ku2o12lu2pu2v12u12xu2tu2z02h02**2s00U*07104134*33w0A0mB3
speed = x4
0030020000100*02102*01*03*06*05*01w00q00004000v00u01u0B*0200Du0F00Cv0E10E00Ku0J*0Hv0Lu0G*0Bv0Q00N10M*0Pu0O*0Su0X00I10V*0Y10b00au0R00e00Uu0fv0T*0W10dv0j*0cu0iu0Zv0m00g*0ku0o10lu0pu0v10u10xu0tu0z00h00**0s010*0n01200r*13*11*17*16*1901501Bv0qv1Du0wu0.*1801Cu1F014v1E10y01Ku1J*1Hv1Lu1G*1Av1Q01N11M*1Pu1O*1Su1X01I11V*1Y11b01au1R01e01Uu1fv1T*1W11dv1j*1cu1iu1Zv1m01g*1ku1o11lu1pu1v11u11xu1tu1z01h01**1s020*1n02201r*23*21*27*26*2902502Bv1qv2Du1wu1.*2802Cu2F024v2E11y02Ku2J*2Hv2Lu2G*2Av2Q02N12M*2Pu2O*2Su2X02I12V*2Y12b02au2R02e02Uu2fv2T*2W12dv2j*2cu2iu2Zv2m02g*2ku2o12lu2pu2v12u12xu2tu2z02h02**2s00U*07104134*33w0A0cC3
speed = x8
0030030000100*02102*01*03*06*05*01w00q00004000v00u01u0B*0200Du0F00Cv0E10E00Ku0J*0Hv0Lu0G*0Bv0Q00N10M*0Pu0O*0Su0X00I10V*0Y10b00au0R00e00Uu0fv0T*0W10dv0j*0cu0iu0Zv0m00g*0ku0o10lu0pu0v10u10xu0tu0z00h00**0s010*0n01200r*13*11*17*16*1901501Bv0qv1Du0wu0.*1801Cu1F014v1E10y01Ku1J*1Hv1Lu1G*1Av1Q01N11M*1Pu1O*1Su1X01I11V*1Y11b01au1R01e01Uu1fv1T*1W11dv1j*1cu1iu1Zv1m01g*1ku1o11lu1pu1v11u11xu1tu1z01h01**1s020*1n02201r*23*21*27*26*2902502Bv1qv2Du1wu1.*2802Cu2F024v2E11y02Ku2J*2Hv2Lu2G*2Av2Q02N12M*2Pu2O*2Su2X02I12V*2Y12b02au2R02e02Uu2fv2T*2W12dv2j*2cu2iu2Zv2m02g*2ku2o12lu2pu2v12u12xu2tu2z02h02**2s00U*07104134*33w0A0iC3

edit:
After further testing, the 3rd from last char is affected by other settings such as dot limit.

[~Memzak~]

Yay, first we must figure out all the combinations for tools... and then dots and then pretty soon we'll be able to maybe find secret elements? ooohoo....

[PickleMan]

I wanna help
If you decompile PG and follow references, you can clearly see where it is saved...
What it means? I dunno, it's obfuscated on the bytecode level, meaning it won't compile again.

[endy123]

for zero blocks with element in the top left corner


Pwdr
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Wtr
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Fire
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Seed
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G-pwdr
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Fan
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Ice
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S-Ball
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Clone
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F-Wrks
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Oil
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C-4
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Stone
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Magma
0030000000K00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00veG1
Virus
0030000000L00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00vpG1
Nitro
0030000000N00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00vfI1
Ant
0030000000O00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00vaJ1
Torch
0030000000P00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00vlJ1
Gas
0030000000Q00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00vgK1
Soapy
0030000000R00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00vbL1
Thunder
0030000000S00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00vmL1
Metal
0030000000T00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00vhM1
Bomb
0030000000V00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00vnN1
Lsr
0030000000X00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00vdP1
Acid
0030000000Y00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00voP1
Vine
0030000000Z00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00vjA2
Salt
0030000000a00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00vgF2
Glass
0030000000c00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00vmG2
Bird
0030000000d00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00vhH2
Mercury
0030000000f00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00vnI2
Spark
0030000000g00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00viJ2
Fuse
0030000000h00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00vdK2
SW
0030000000b00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00vbG2
Steam
0030000000C00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00vmA1
Wood
0030000000600000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00vnH0
Snow
0030000000B00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00vbA1


interesting to see fan and fireworks have extra code. Presumably for the fan's direction and the second element for fireworks.

[Qwerty]

This is moving much more quickly than I thought.

[droctagonapus]

Oct 29, 2010 23:38:21 GMT endy123 said:

for zero blocks with element in the top left corner


interesting to see fan and fireworks have extra code. Presumably for the fan's direction and the second element for fireworks.

yes, I did something similar last night. (I was going to post it, but ninja'd)

and all the ones other than fan and fireworks differ only by 4 charecters.
0030700000?00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00v???


where the question marks represent the things that are different for the different element.

for a full chart, including some spots where single charecter spots aren't consecutive, so I assume they are after some element or object, see attachment or pastebin.com/tr6NPcJY

[darkchaos10]

If only we could just decompile and look at how the code does it...

[droctagonapus]

meh. its obsifucated right?

anyway, if anyone can see a pattern in those 3 letters in the order of lowercase uppercase number that corresponds with the 23456...ABC...abc thing. that would be very useful.

also the code changes significantly if you move the powder over a pixel so yeah...(same length though)

[~Memzak~]

Awesome, so all we need to do is now someone write a code to create a PG savecode and then try and load it up into PG to see if it works.

Then we can try all the element combinations possible and see if there might be a glitched/secret/unfinished new element...

That's what I'm excited for.

[endy123]

Oct 30, 2010 14:56:34 GMT droctagonapus said:

Oct 29, 2010 23:38:21 GMT endy123 said:

for zero blocks with element in the top left corner


interesting to see fan and fireworks have extra code. Presumably for the fan's direction and the second element for fireworks.

yes, I did something similar last night. (I was going to post it, but ninja'd)

and all the ones other than fan and fireworks differ only by 4 charecters.
0030700000?00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00v???


where the question marks represent the things that are different for the different element.

for a full chart, including some spots where single charecter spots aren't consecutive, so I assume they are after some element or object, see attachment or pastebin.com/tr6NPcJY

yeah, I'm wondering if you could just try going onto the next letter in the series(possibly "i") for the first question mark, then trying different combination for the last 3 to find a new element.

different kinds of fireworks may also give some clues, somewhere it is storing the second element it can turn into.

[~Memzak~]

And then perhaps we'd be able to find out how balls are stored and how to assign elements to them and soon we'll have our bird, magma and torch balls all ready for action. (of course they'll probably all disappear for one frame anyways)

But I have a feeling this might be the place of groundbreaking discovery for secret PG elements that haven't been added yet and then we can speculate what their names are going to be...

[PickleMan]

I wish I could just add a java debugger...

[endy123]

I went through the combinations for what I think will be the next code on the list with no luck.

still might be one out there though, all kinds of possibilities.

believe it will be in the form of:

Next
0030000000i00000*03003*02*04*07*06*0900500B*0800C*0A*0D*0G*0F*0I00E00K*0H00L*0J*0M*0P*0O*0R00N00T*0Q00U*0S*0V*0Y*0X*0a00W00c*0Z00d*0b*0e*0h*0g*0j00f00l*0i00m*0k*0n*0q*0p*0s00o00u*0r00v*0t*0w*0z*0y*0*00x011*0.012*10*13*16*15*1801401A*1701B*19*1C*1F*1E*1H01D01J*1G01K*1I*1L*1O*1N*0kr00v?L2

the question mark being the unknown.

[droctagonapus]

wait, how did you get the L in "?L2" ?

what I have as the last 3 are
aL2 f (mercury)
1L2 g (spark)
gM2 h (fuse)

LLML ?
why would it change to M and then back to L?

so far I'm pretty sure that if the dingle char is i then the 3 chars are not a?2
however that is just for a... this really should be automated but I don't know any programming language suitable for the task...

please say why you think the second one is L.

I will try all the ones of that form, even though you already did.