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Post by QwertyuiopThePie on Jan 9, 2011 3:43:34 GMT
Simple: Shut down the scam, or move it into the grey market.
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Post by Artifact123 on Jan 9, 2011 9:35:51 GMT
I don't see a shop made by you in the Dan-Ball Shop board...
I'll wait for more input on the bot rule amendments before updating them. I do have a few concerns with some of the other proposals. Non-members who raid the forum already customarily receive permanent bans. I guess if we added a rule specifying that, it could serve as a warning to others and as a guide for how staff should intervene in a raid. Dan-Ball exchanges always have to be executed by Global Moderators and/or Administrators, the only ones who actually have the power to modify the number of Dan-Balls an account has, so it seems that the only way true theft of Dan-Balls could occur is if a staff member was a shop owner (or other collecting side of a Dan-Ball exchange) and intentionally neglected to provide a promised function or service to the payer. In that case, the staff member would require demotion. Since we usually wait for the payer to receive a service before modifying anyone's Dan-Balls, there is usually no chance for a scam to be successful. I don't think a Dan-Ball theft rule would be necessary, except for staff. If a person does decide to make a "scam," then by all means that member can make it in the Grey Market and not get any business. If a member made such a thread in the Dan-Ball Store board as a legitimate shop, however, then I presume we could punish the user, but how without going over the limit? And what about our Members raiding other Forums? If it would be a non-trollish raid on ArtFrost stating how their hierarchy sucks then it would maybe not count. But if our people would make an account on another Forum just to say "ur frm is total crap hahaha!!1ha11!" If raiding, Shop Spam and Dan-Ball Stealing in the normal shop board are accepted as Officcial Rules, could i have Ideas Badge+25 ¥ Reward? |
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Post by QwertyuiopThePie on Jan 9, 2011 10:50:41 GMT
You can't steal Dan-balls in the normal shop (it isn't actually possible), you can't spam shops (already in the rules, it's called "spam"), and raiding outside the forum is not within our jurisdiction.
Besides, three ideas hardly constitutes a badge.
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Post by PulSe on Jan 9, 2011 15:14:48 GMT
If there's not already one in place, I'd like to suggest a rule that goes against the persecution of religious beliefs or disbeliefs. I'm not sure whether it falls under flaming, and I'm not sure whether it would come into effect here or not, but I think people should be allowed to express religious beliefs. If you disagree with it(and by that I mean you follow something else), that's okay, but don't mock them for theirs. If you have a problem with religion, keep it to yourself.
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Post by QwertyuiopThePie on Jan 9, 2011 22:23:15 GMT
Yep, that falls under flaming. Of course, it's unavoidable in the "Is there a God?" thread, and in other religious serious debate threads, but outside that it shouldn't be mentioned.
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Post by PulSe on Jan 9, 2011 23:44:02 GMT
All right, I was just wondering.
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Post by ~Memzak~ on Jan 10, 2011 9:58:09 GMT
Oh lawd! How can you not include religion in every post! God shall smite you from above and then send you to hell! [/nonotreallyimaaethist]]
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I still haven't seen your answer on raiding other websites...
Such as naratochat with a spambot or artfrost?
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Post by QwertyuiopThePie on Jan 10, 2011 14:47:03 GMT
Of course you've seen my answer. It's not under our jurisdiction. And, to be honest, I couldn't care less about artfrost. Any site that makes us look like the third Reich deserves it.
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Post by Artifact123 on Jan 10, 2011 15:13:40 GMT
Read my Posts without putting imaginary no's between some letters. I said that it's okay if you raid ArtFrost but not if you raid an inoccent Forum.
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Post by QwertyuiopThePie on Jan 10, 2011 15:40:23 GMT
I was pretty obviously responding to Memzak there, not you. He did mention Artfrost.
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on Jan 10, 2011 17:37:27 GMT
It may not be in our jurisdiction to punish members who raid other forums, but really? Do the rules really need to indicate that members of this forum shouldn't raid members of other forums?
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I don't care if we're being raided by http:evildoers-but-dogooders-what-is-this.com, we shouldn't be raiding the site...
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Post by RubiksMaster123 on Jan 12, 2011 0:45:26 GMT
I didn't know forums fight each other...
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Post by speedyclock on Jan 12, 2011 2:08:40 GMT
Hard to do that when staff are giving us links and SUGGESTING we raid forums. We get what we give.
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Post by QwertyuiopThePie on Jan 12, 2011 18:36:06 GMT
And when did anyone do that? We don't suggest people raid forums any more than Artfrost suggests its members raids us: That's the community. I'm just saying I honestly don't care if they do, any more than Chrono cares if they raid us.
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Post by ~Memzak~ on Jan 12, 2011 21:03:04 GMT
Please remove the spoiler tag with B0t commands. As bot isn't here anymore and doesn't have those commands...
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on Feb 10, 2011 20:37:02 GMT
I thought we had this rule, but it turns out we don't, so I would like to propose a rule on backseat moderating, keeping in mind of course that no rule shall be ex post facto.
Shall we have the rule, and if so, what seems like a reasonable warning level for each offense? Ten percent per infraction?
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Post by QwertyuiopThePie on Feb 11, 2011 2:27:36 GMT
Agreed, but it should take into account first offenses. A simple 10% is good, I agree. Just something to show on their miniprofile that they are not to be trusted as a moderator. Also, any repeat offender should be removed of any chances of becoming staff in the future. We can't have staff that acted like they were staff when they were members.
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Post by disabled on Feb 11, 2011 3:33:17 GMT
A simple 10% is good, I agree. Just something to show on their miniprofile that they are not to be trusted as a moderator. Also, any repeat offender should be removed of any chances of becoming staff in the future. We can't have staff that acted like they were staff when they were members. Now that I understood what this rule should be about, I completely agree with you qwerty. |
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on Feb 12, 2011 16:03:22 GMT
Since no one has argued against the bot rule amendment proposals, and since there was already support by two Administrators, I amended the bot rules to reflect usage and creation of any bot, not just B0t.
Also, since the backseat moderation rule has been accepted by two Administrators and a user, I added that rule. If there's a problem with the description, let me know...
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Post by nmagain on Mar 1, 2011 18:27:53 GMT
minsheme should be banned for using a bot to link porn   |
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on Mar 1, 2011 20:53:01 GMT
How did this happen? Thank you very much for the report and especially the screenshot, I will take care of this now...
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Post by Rock on Mar 2, 2011 23:18:05 GMT
I propose a rule giving a 15% warning for all spam-smites. This problem is way out of hand and has now cost me 10 karma, and need a set punishment.
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on Mar 3, 2011 0:09:36 GMT
Would it be proportional to the number of spam smites, or would it be a flat 15% warning? Would the warning replace the "eye-for-an-eye" measure of smiting the spam smiter, which would seem to be a fair way of implementing the warning, or would it supplement the "eye-for-an-eye" measure, which would seem a bit unreasonable?
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Post by QwertyuiopThePie on Mar 3, 2011 1:03:07 GMT
For spamsmiters it should be 5% plus 1% per smite/exalt. It's not so much the length that counts but whether they have one or not, and there's not really any other way, to fairly do this by intensity of smite.
Also, the eye-for-eye punishment on top of this.
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Post by Fringe Pioneer on Mar 3, 2011 1:21:27 GMT
I think I can agree to it, but we should see if others also agree - especially Rock, who first made the proposal...
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Post by Rock on Mar 3, 2011 2:59:52 GMT
Yup. That'll work.
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Post by Alonso on Apr 7, 2011 20:46:35 GMT
Couldn't one steal ones badge not that I have any or stole any by copying and pasting . or saving the image.
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Post by GGoodie on Apr 7, 2011 21:04:40 GMT
I propose a rule giving a 15% warning for all spam-smites. This problem is way out of hand and has now cost me 10 karma, and need a set punishment. That is one of the dumbest rules ever proposed. Couldn't one steal ones badge not that I have any or stole any by copying and pasting . or saving the image. The staff have a list of who has what badges. |
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Post by Rock on Apr 8, 2011 19:15:38 GMT
Why is is stupid? You want the trolls to go unpunished? And no, we do not have a list of who has what badges, but we can find out whether you earned the badge.
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Post by D_M-01 on Apr 8, 2011 20:00:56 GMT
It should not really matter to you what your karma is. As I recall, it has no affect on your status on the forums. Furthermore, the fact that you complain about it is what entices the "trolls" to do the action repeatedly. Plus, with a status such as karma, you do not know for sure exactly who is exalting or smiting you.
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